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Author Topic:   Is internet porn ruining our next generation? Is censorship the answer?
ringo
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Message 121 of 144 (768730)
09-13-2015 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 115 by Greatest I am
09-12-2015 5:25 PM


Re: porn is an incomplete experience
Greatest I am writes:

People do not seem to favor censorship but I see no other viable solution given all the conditions.


The other viable solution is the lesser of two evils - don't censor.

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ringo
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Message 122 of 144 (768731)
09-13-2015 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by Greatest I am
09-12-2015 5:30 PM


Re: Sexuality Education
Greatest I am writes:

This following is what was given to me by another woman.

'Monster Cock Destroys Slut Pu**y'
'(name) Loves Getting Her Pu**y Beaten Up'
'Sperm Swallowing Slut Wife Railed Hard'
'Nasty Ebony Public Slut get Cocks'
'Teen Slut on a Leash Gets C*m Drenched'

Notice a pattern in how women are spoken of?


You're cherry-picking. Try googling "healthy expression of sexuality".

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Message 123 of 144 (768741)
09-13-2015 3:22 PM
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09-12-2015 6:15 PM


Re: Darwin Awards & Drought
RAZD

If you are happy to live without a sense of social justice or conscience, then yes, don't worry about anything and especially not the health of children.

Regards
DL


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Message 124 of 144 (768742)
09-13-2015 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 119 by Tanypteryx
09-12-2015 7:23 PM


Tanypteryx

Your last would be a lie as your attitude is demonstrated by your own words. You show who and what you are whenever you open your mouth.

Regards
DL


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Message 125 of 144 (768743)
09-13-2015 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by ringo
09-13-2015 2:21 PM


Re: porn is an incomplete experience
ringo

That would go a long way into doing nothing and allowing harm to come to a large number of us.

For evil to grow, all good people need do is nothing.

Regards
DL


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Message 126 of 144 (768744)
09-13-2015 3:27 PM
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09-13-2015 2:26 PM


Re: Sexuality Education
ringo

Healthy habits are not the issue and what I gave was common internet porn fare.

Regards
DL


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ringo
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Message 127 of 144 (768747)
09-13-2015 3:34 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by Greatest I am
09-13-2015 3:26 PM


Re: porn is an incomplete experience
Greatest I am writes:

For evil to grow, all good people need do is nothing.


And good people doing the WRONG thing can also cause evil to grow. Sometimes nothing is the lesser of two evils.

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ringo
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Message 128 of 144 (768749)
09-13-2015 3:37 PM
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09-13-2015 3:27 PM


Re: Sexuality Education
Greatest I am writes:

Healthy habits are not the issue and what I gave was common internet porn fare.


You seem to be suggesting that the "common Internet porn fare" is NOT healthy. Why else propose censorship to cure it?

You could just as well say that food is not healthy because some foods contain sugar, caffeine, etc. Some is not all.


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arachnophilia
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Message 129 of 144 (768751)
09-13-2015 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 116 by Greatest I am
09-12-2015 5:30 PM


Re: Sexuality Education
Greatest I am writes:

This following is what was given to me by another woman.

'Monster Cock Destroys Slut Pu**y'
'(name) Loves Getting Her Pu**y Beaten Up'
'Sperm Swallowing Slut Wife Railed Hard'
'Nasty Ebony Public Slut get Cocks'
'Teen Slut on a Leash Gets C*m Drenched'

Notice a pattern in how women are spoken of? See how a common theme is the penis as a weapon against the women? Type 'whore', 'slut', 'bitch', 'c**t' or any racialised term with the word porn and/or some word denoting some kind of abuse, see what comes up and then come back and tell us it's only a 'healthy expression of sexuality'.

did you watch any of those?

the reason i ask is that internet porn sharing culture is basically the same as everything else on the internet. duplication of content, relinking, rehosting, sharing, and click bait titles. this kind of nonsense is basically the buzzfeed of internet porn.

the truth is that right now, porn is becoming really democratized. women are figuring out that they can make money from it at home, cutting out the middleman. and even if there is a studio etc involved, it's basically only the scumbags out there that don't have the women in total control. women make the most money, and get veto power over everything.

porn companies are also starting to figure out that women are part of their target audience, and that women like porn too, and are producing porn that's much less exploitative or abusive. and many sites are specifically adding "female friendly" categories.

the more abuse-oriented fetishes will probably never go away, but they do go both ways. for every facial-abuse there's a fem-dom as well.


אָרַח

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Message 130 of 144 (768753)
09-13-2015 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by Greatest I am
09-13-2015 3:24 PM


GIa writes:

Your last would be a lie as your attitude is demonstrated by your own words. You show who and what you are whenever you open your mouth.

Ironic, isn't it?


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Message 131 of 144 (768756)
09-13-2015 4:56 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by Greatest I am
09-13-2015 3:22 PM


Re: Darwin Awards & Drought
If you are happy to live without a sense of social justice or conscience, then yes, don't worry about anything and especially not the health of children.

You seem desperate to create a controversy over a poorly documented incompletely understood aspect of human behavior, and I suspect it has more to do with your biases than with real issues.

You do this by using several logical fallacies including the fallacy of implied consequences.

Curiously I have pointed out several things that are of much more social concern for the civilized human race -- global warming, the ensuing droughts and other climate catastrophes, and the resulting wars from people being displaced from their homelands because they are no longer productive of a living healthy community -- and you appear completely nonplussed by it. You rant about the health of children because of behavior, but ignore the behavior causing death and destruction of children and whole families by these much more tragic circumstances.

As I said previously, these things have orders of magnitude greater impact on the human race than your tentative study -- real actual on the ground impact.

There are children starving, not just in remote sections of the world, but even here in the US.

Meanwhile you have not (a) demonstrated that your purported claim is valid (several have questioned it) or (2) that it is a lasting, permanent effect.

And again, I say that I have no trouble with people taking themselves out of the gene pool by their voluntarily chosen behavior: I do not see that as a bad thing in any discernible way.

Reproduction is not due to one person's behavior, it is due to a compatible couple choosing to reproduce together: if some males are not up to the task there will be a number of willing participants if one is really concerned.

You do understand that reduction of male participation in a breeding population has virtually negligible effect on the reproductive process of the population, and in fact is a preferred mechanism in many species.

Enjoy


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Message 132 of 144 (768757)
09-13-2015 5:01 PM
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09-13-2015 4:26 PM


GIa writes:

Your last would be a lie ...

Ironic, isn't it?

Does is seem to you that Greatest I am is becoming increasingly troll-like rather than actually addressing points made? Or is this just his normal behavior?

Ironic indeed.


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Message 133 of 144 (768758)
09-13-2015 5:11 PM
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09-13-2015 5:01 PM


Does is seem to you that Greatest I am is becoming increasingly troll-like rather than actually addressing points made? Or is this just his normal behavior?

Yes & yes.

He is becoming more troll like and that is his normal behavior. I thought he was a troll when he started posting here.

It upsets him if you disagree with him....."You are obviously a bad man."


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Message 134 of 144 (768761)
09-13-2015 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 128 by ringo
09-13-2015 3:37 PM


Re: Sexuality Education
ringo

You must have missed that our government as well as others are trying to censor/control the amount of addictive materials that food companies put into what we eat.

Why not let them also do that when as much harm is being done as there seems to be?

Regards
DL


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Message 135 of 144 (768762)
09-13-2015 6:06 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by arachnophilia
09-13-2015 4:16 PM


Re: Sexuality Education
arachnophilia

No. I did not follow those links.

I am quite all right with listening to and believing what the experts I linked to who are saying that it is not porn that is the direct enemy. It is the way our male minds work and the addicting values of the new high speed access technology. It is about our brains overdosing on the volume and variety of what can be accessed.

Regards
DL


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