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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
We know the size of the ark, can we figure out how much space the 18,000,000 species would actually need? 18 million? You're off by a factor of one thousand or so. The most conservative estimate I know of pegs the number of species at about 8 billion; the upper limit is somewhere around 80 billion.
I feel as though if it rained hard enough to flood the earth, provided there was enough water, that the water over land would still be fresh water, and higher than sea level, because it would be draining back to the sea. Since we know that floodists believe that all sediment prior to the K/T boundary is flood sediment, and floodists have offered an estimate of how much water was involved, we can calculate the estimated silt density of the floodwaters. It turns out that it's not silty water, it's more like runny mud. Your flood is a mile-thick mudpie. Freshwater species won't survive. They need to be on the Ark.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
If it is 8 billion, divide that into the amount of years scientists think earth was around 4.6 bilion, and you get almost 2 new species every year appearing. Do we see that? Easily.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Who cares. It's a logic problem; a chance to show us the power of your common sense. (Actually, this is a famous problem that demonstrates how so-called "common sense" can be wrong about so many things.) AbE: On second though, spoiler removed. This message has been edited by crashfrog, 09-26-2004 08:15 PM
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
It was made from cypress. I thought it was made from gopher wood.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Since the earth is 75% water, and 25% land. You would need only to lower the oceans a little less than 7feet to cover the land with 20 feet of water. Except that that uncovers an assload of new land.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
The ark ended up on Mt. Ararat, remember? No problem. If water runs down a hill fast enough, it'll roll right up the side of a mountain. That's just common sense, right?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
How much of the ocean is 7 feet or less, but wait, don't forget to add back in the polar cap water. Well, maybe you've been to the area where the ocean is 7 feet or less - it's called the fucking beach. It constitutes millions of square miles of submerged land. Jesus Christ.
Think before you speak. Right back at ya. Of course, if you were thinking at all, I wouldn't have had to point out that lowering the ocean uncovers more beach. This message has been edited by crashfrog, 09-29-2004 11:46 AM
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Only trying to prove that the earth can be flooded with the water thats here already. But if that was true, RR, the Earth would be flooded right now. The reason that water goes back to the ocean is because the ocean is the lowest point. Water goes to the lowest point. How are you going to flood the world for 100 days without the water immediately running to the lowest point, i.e. the ocean? You think the water is just going to stick to the sides of mountains?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
If I say its rain that would cause the flood, the water has to come from somewhere. The ocean. So if we displace all that water, we were talking about how much the oceans would drop. They wouldn't drop at all, because - like what happens now when it rains - the water runs back to the ocean.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
And all life would be gone. Is that what happens on your mountain when it "floods"? Nothing's left but a dead zone? I question the power of a four inch flow to end all life.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
The thing I find most amazing about you is how your not a scientists, yet you side with them all the time. But see, I'm smart and educated enough to understand their reasoning and, to some limited degree, assess their arguments. I don't universally side with "scientists" (as though they all say the same thing), but I make a habit of not advancing idiotic propositions, like yours.
How much life exists at the top of mt.everest? Plenty, but what does that have to do with anything? When you get four inches of filthy stagnant water in your basement, is the result more or less living organisms than there were before? How could a flood that only comes up to your ankles and is gone in a few hours extinguish all life on Earth? This message has been edited by crashfrog, 10-03-2004 01:09 PM
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
This helps me, not disproves what I'm saying If you think so, then you got the wrong answer. Floodwater is dirty and filled with life. It puts more living things than were in your basement to begin with.
When its moving at 100 miles per hour. Then it's a fun waterslide but still not particularly lethal. Also I don't know exactly how you got "100 miles per hour." Just making up numbers now, are we?
And its 40 days and nights, not a few hours. Where did you get a few hours from, care to explain that logic? Where is the water coming from to rain for that long? If you took 7 feet of water from the oceans, like you said, and suspended it in the atmosphere as rain, it would be gone in a few hours. You haven't posited enough water to rain for 40 days. The place where I got a few hours is your own argument.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Its a constant cycle that last for forty days. So, just by magic it keeps raining?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
After we figure out if it is at all possible It isn't possible, though. We just covered that. There's no way to sustain that kind of precipitation cycle. You get a few hours of rain, and then you're done. That's not a flood.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1492 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I can take as long as I want with the post, because no matter when I post it, EvC will always be here! Sure, but the problem with your lackadasical approach is that until you do actually demolish us with the brilliance of this oft-heralded superpost, this:
It's fun to watch critics jump in the water and start bringing all sorts of stuff they know nothing about. It's like watching them swim in a pool blindfolded, with their compass sitting on the edge of the pool and them not knowing where it is. looks a lot like the hollow boasting that conceals knowledge of defeat. You apparently don't get how it works - first you prove your point, then you get to celebrate your victory. You've got it all back-ass-wards.
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