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Message 13 of 506 (768153)
09-08-2015 12:51 PM
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09-08-2015 9:44 AM


Paul just made stuff up to suit the times and audience
Come on Faith, Christianity has been just making stuff up and changing the rules to suit the times and the audience since Paul stated marketing his new creation.

Even the basics like the Great Commission evolved over time to meet marketing demands. See The evolution of the Great Commission over time..


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Message 42 of 506 (768206)
09-09-2015 10:40 AM
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09-09-2015 5:06 AM


on Nations
For a small period, Israel was a nation as was Judah. They were never one nation. In addition, "Israel" was also a people including members of Judah and the nation of Israel just like Christianity. Fortunately though Jesus was never a Christian.

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Message 43 of 506 (768207)
09-09-2015 10:42 AM
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09-09-2015 10:27 AM


on making stuff up.
Faith writes:

You don't have to understand it, just trust that I know what I'm talking about based on years of Christian teaching.

Don't you mean apologists making stuff up?


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Message 50 of 506 (768221)
09-09-2015 12:20 PM
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09-09-2015 10:53 AM


Re: on making stuff up.
But what I actually do have Faith is what is really written in the Bible.

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Message 64 of 506 (768253)
09-10-2015 8:46 AM
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09-10-2015 7:45 AM


Re: Blessed are the Magnanimous
Yet the fact remains that there is no such thing as "The Bible™" and that all of the various bibles contain false statements, fiction and contradictions.

You can deny that but the actual words written prove that you would be wrong.


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Message 68 of 506 (768258)
09-10-2015 10:20 AM
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09-10-2015 10:07 AM


Re: Original Sin
Except Faith, that is NOT what the Bible says. There is no mention of any death of the spirit or fallen nature in the Genesis 2&3 story and Adam & Eve (or Steve since Eve is just a clone of Adam) do not cease to be in communion with the God character plus death certainly existed before the Garden was even created since it was necessary to create a Tree of Life.

Have you ever actually read the Bible Faith?


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Message 83 of 506 (768298)
09-10-2015 3:25 PM
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09-10-2015 10:56 AM


Re: Original Sin
Faith writes:

Only literal-minded dunderheadedness requires the Bible to state doctrine in so many words. A great deal of doctrine is inferred, but that takes a lot of thought, which is beyond some.

Again, thank you Faith. Yes, almost all doctrine is stuff the salesmen make up and NOT what Jesus or what is actually written in the bible stories.

Finally you admit the truth.

Doctrine is made up.


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Message 85 of 506 (768300)
09-10-2015 3:35 PM
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09-10-2015 3:31 PM


Re: Original Sin
So you say; yet the fact remains that doctrine very seldom resembles or even reflects what is actually written.

When you ignore truth and facts then your inferences are unlikely to be correct.

You do not assemble facts, rather you simply ignore those facts that do not fit your desired conclusion.


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Message 88 of 506 (768304)
09-10-2015 3:48 PM
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09-10-2015 3:40 PM


Re: Original Sin
But you are proving my point. You are simply repeating stuff the New Testament writers and later apologists made up and ignoring what is actually written in the Genesis 2&3 story.

I would be more honest to say that the god character lied and the serpent told the truth that the Original Sin is the god character issuing commands while denying Adam & Steve the tools necessary to obey those commands and then punishing them for Her (the god character) failings.


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Message 90 of 506 (768307)
09-10-2015 4:21 PM
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09-10-2015 4:00 PM


Re: Original Sin
But my position can and is supported by what is actually written in Genesis 2&3 Faith and that is a significant difference.

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Message 92 of 506 (768310)
09-10-2015 5:14 PM
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09-10-2015 4:50 PM


Tangle writes:

The religious have certainty of belief.

I am religious. I do not have a certainty of belief.

Tangle writes:

Have you never read Faiths posts? The bible is the inerrant word of god, the church's teaching are correct and you err at the peril of your soul.

Yes, there are people that believe such things just as there are people that do not even believe they have a soul that might be in peril.


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Message 97 of 506 (768323)
09-10-2015 8:45 PM
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09-10-2015 5:19 PM


Bullshit.

I am certainly not agnostic; just honest.

Try it sometime.


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Message 168 of 506 (768812)
09-14-2015 9:06 AM
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09-14-2015 7:09 AM


Re: The Delusions of Religion's Accomodation
Faith writes:

Would you have been happier if Islam had won its war to conquer the west?

Actually Faith, Islam was supportive of knowledge and education and creating seats of learning. It was barbaric Christianity that lagged behind in education. Cordoba was a place of learning and education while Europe endured the Dark Ages.


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Message 171 of 506 (768817)
09-14-2015 10:23 AM
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09-14-2015 9:12 AM


Re: The Delusions of Religion's Accomodation
What Tyrany of Islam? During the Caliphates Islam was the bastion of personal freedom and freedom of religion.

Edited by jar, : applin spallin

Edited by jar, : and missing letters?


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Message 173 of 506 (768821)
09-14-2015 10:35 AM
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09-14-2015 10:31 AM


Re: Accomodationism Perpetuates Evil
Faith writes:

The talking snake isn't a myth. It represents Satan, which we are told in the Book of Revelation.

So you agree, there is nothing in Genesis 2&3 to show any seduction and your interpretation is based simply on what the author of Revelation made up?


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