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Message 481 of 505 (878327)
06-29-2020 1:29 AM


Explaining the Faith - Divine Mercy 101 (Part 1 of 2)

in other news, we're still winning

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Message 482 of 505 (878335)
06-29-2020 3:21 AM
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06-28-2020 10:19 PM


SoC writes:

no respect.

All I know about you is what you've said here. So far what you've said has not earned any respect at all and has removed any that you had by default before you said anything.

If you could present any actual case for your mad assertions you might help yourself but it's clear that you're not going to, presumably because you can't. So no, no respect.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

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"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 483 of 505 (878355)
06-29-2020 12:13 PM
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06-29-2020 3:21 AM


ok tweedle dee

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Message 484 of 505 (878363)
06-29-2020 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 483 by a servant of Christ
06-29-2020 12:13 PM


One day we'll get some believer in here that has a brain and is basically sane. But it is pretty clear that they never have both and usually have neither.

It's really weird when they think that ignorance is something to brag about.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 485 of 505 (878371)
06-29-2020 2:26 PM
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Message 486 of 505 (878379)
06-29-2020 3:24 PM
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06-29-2020 2:26 PM


Please put into your own words what it is you think is important in that link and how it might support whatever argument you have. Quote from it where it helps.

We don't post bare links here.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 487 of 505 (878382)
06-29-2020 3:29 PM
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06-29-2020 3:24 PM


Catholic position on purgatory.

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Message 488 of 505 (878387)
06-29-2020 3:36 PM
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06-29-2020 3:29 PM


SoC writes:

Catholic position on purgatory.

We are talking about Limbo, not purgatory.

And your response is still not an argument.

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Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 489 of 505 (878395)
06-29-2020 4:01 PM
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06-29-2020 1:11 PM


Belief & Sanity
One day we'll get some believer in here that has a brain and is basically sane.
You mean someone like Dr.John Lennox? Or do you really mean that you don't see how belief and sanity could rationally coexist?

“The only way I know to drive out evil from the country is by the constructive method of filling it with good.”Calvin Coolidge
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
“As the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, so the denial of God is the height of foolishness.”-RC Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith

- You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.
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I Have Strong Arguments Which I Cant Say To You~CG

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Message 490 of 505 (878399)
06-29-2020 4:49 PM
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06-29-2020 4:01 PM


Re: Belief & Sanity
I mean all we get are nutters incapable of coherent argument, incapacitated by their belief.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 491 of 505 (878404)
06-29-2020 5:06 PM
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06-29-2020 4:49 PM


Re: Belief & Sanity
maybe because u don't know the nomenclature or anything that you're talking about.

ppl see that and don't want to be a part of this place.

religious ppl are no dummies

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Message 492 of 505 (878416)
06-29-2020 8:09 PM
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06-29-2020 1:14 AM


Re:
I appreciate that. I work hard on my linguistics.

Factio Republicana delenda est.
I am antifa.

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Message 493 of 505 (878417)
06-29-2020 8:16 PM
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06-29-2020 5:06 PM


Re: Belief & Sanity
SOC writes:

religious ppl are no dummies

While there have been examples of religious people who were not dummies it is very hard to find any such examples within the US and in particular impossible within the Cult of Trump sycophants.


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Message 494 of 505 (878423)
06-30-2020 12:54 AM
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Re: Belief & Sanity
rather be in the cult of trump than the cult of biden, a religious fraud.

then again, you would know a thing or two about being a religious fraud. Christ spit your lukewarm ass out a long time ago.


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Message 495 of 505 (878435)
06-30-2020 3:05 AM
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06-29-2020 5:06 PM


Re: Belief & Sanity
SoC writes:

maybe because u don't know the nomenclature or anything that you're talking about.

I'll give this one last go. This is what Limbo is supposed to be according to the Catholic Church

quote:
The Limbo of Infants (Latin limbus infantium or limbus puerorum) is the hypothetical permanent status of the unbaptized who die in infancy, too young to have committed actual sins, but not having been freed from original sin.

Until recently it was taught that unbaptised babies that died could never get into heaven - their souls were in Limbo, neither heaven nor hell. It was part of the Catholic catechism which I'm sure even you have heard about.

Purgatory is quite different

quote:
Purgatory (Latin: purgatorium, via Anglo-Norman and Old French)[1] is, according to the belief of some Christians (mostly Catholics), an intermediate state after physical death for expiatory purification.[2]

Purgatory is a place of torture were the soul is purified before entering heaven.

So Limbo, you can never enter heaven (but it's not hell or purgatory either, there's no torture); purgatory you get tortured for a while, then when you're all done, you get to heaven.

Your mad church still believes in purgatory but since 2007 no longer believes in Limbo. (And Limbo is no longer in the catechism of Catholic beliefs).

Ok?

It's all mediaeval, and just plain evil, but that's what Catholics are now required to believe.

However, this new pope of yours - who actually seems to be pretty decent for a Jesuit - doesn't seem to even believe in hell, let alone limbo and purgatory.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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