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Omnivorous
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Message 13 of 85 (768285)
09-10-2015 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Faith
09-10-2015 11:30 AM


Faith writes:
Artist renderings are untrustworthy. Beside which, as I said, if it's human it's human, but I don't trust whoever decides that anyway.
If you could apply your native skepticism to your own beliefs, you would have a remarkable mind.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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Omnivorous
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Message 21 of 85 (768306)
09-10-2015 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Faith
09-10-2015 2:46 PM


Faith writes:
If you could apply your native skepticism to your own beliefs, you would have a remarkable mind.
But of course I did apply it to those beliefs, for years and years and years, before I was finally rightly persuaded to their truth. Funny how y'all think skepticism must be a permanent condition, never yielding to the knowledge of truth. Strange. But of course that article of faith in permanent skepticism is why you never do come to a knowledge of the truth.
Didn't that circle make you dizzy?
Yes, you're right, I am permanently skeptical; you are, too, about some things.
Vigilant skepticism is hard to achieve and even harder to maintain--the human mind yearns to relax into belief to relieve the existential tension of not knowing. But once that's done, there is no path to any knowledge at all.
The notion of absolute TRVTH is dangerous. People kill and die for that kind of belief. My skepticism tells me that if you need to kill or die for your idea, you need a better idea. It is certainty that most endangers us, and doubt that gets us home.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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Omnivorous
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Message 29 of 85 (768333)
09-10-2015 9:45 PM
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09-10-2015 2:04 PM


Dr Adequate writes:
Or, if she could apply her native skepticism to her own beliefs, she would be remarkably crazy.
I chose "native skepticism" with care but perhaps too little explanation.
Faith's blanket denial of anything she finds disagreeable differs from the more critical turn of mind she admits she once had: the former, brain worms; the latter, her native skepticism.
You may be right. There may be no turning back without breakage.

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Message 67 of 85 (768392)
09-11-2015 9:49 AM
Reply to: Message 60 by Faith
09-11-2015 1:15 AM


Re: incredible creationists
Faith in Msg 56 writes:
Before the Flood there would certainly have been all kinds of wildly different versions of every living thing including human beings.
Faith in Msg 60 writes:
After the Flood small populations would have been constantly splitting off from the larger groups and moving out geographically, which is the perfect condition for rapid phenotypic variation.
That should cover it, I guess.
So God created "wildly different versions" of human beings before the Flood, narrowed it down to a few individuals of one specific variation with the Flood, then post-Flood conditions created "rapid phenotypic variation" which had time to develop extensive phenotypic variations that would flourish, disappear and fossilize. All of this in 6000 years.
Am I with you so far?
Edited by Omnivorous, : clarity

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