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Author Topic:   New Species of Homo Discovered: Homo naledi
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Message 4 of 163 (768480)
09-10-2015 11:04 AM
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09-10-2015 10:58 AM


The credulousness of atheists is breathtaking.

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Message 6 of 163 (768482)
09-10-2015 11:23 AM
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09-10-2015 11:19 AM


They're either human or they're not, and if they're human they are human, they are not "transitionals" but simply humans.

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Message 8 of 163 (768484)
09-10-2015 11:30 AM
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09-10-2015 11:26 AM


Artist renderings are untrustworthy. Beside which, as I said, if it's human it's human, but I don't trust whoever decides that anyway.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 16 of 163 (768492)
09-10-2015 2:46 PM
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09-10-2015 12:43 PM


If you could apply your native skepticism to your own beliefs, you would have a remarkable mind.
But of course I did apply it to those beliefs, for years and years and years, before I was finally rightly persuaded to their truth. Funny how y'all think skepticism must be a permanent condition, never yielding to the knowledge of truth. Strange. But of course that article of faith in permanent skepticism is why you never do come to a knowledge of the truth.

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Message 17 of 163 (768493)
09-10-2015 2:52 PM
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09-10-2015 11:57 AM


The actual facts about the bones don't matter to evolutionists either. We never see them, you know, the evidence is almost never given, certainly not when we're being introduced to a new "find." When we are shown the bones they are a pretty pathetic paltry collection of half a dozen fragments some dog must have chewed. But no, normally all we ever get is an artist's rendering designed to persuade the credulous.
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Message 18 of 163 (768494)
09-10-2015 3:12 PM
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09-10-2015 2:52 PM


Hey, they did show the bones this time. There they are at the link in the first post. Not enough skull there though, and the one hand isn't convincingly human, and the ribs are too skimpy for the general heft of the bones. Now I'm doubting it's one skeleton.

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Message 20 of 163 (768496)
09-10-2015 3:44 PM
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09-10-2015 3:17 PM


Ah, and assembled them into one. Pretty risky method there.

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Message 30 of 163 (768506)
09-10-2015 9:55 PM
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09-10-2015 8:53 PM


Couldn't believe the gospel. It was the gospel itself, the claims of Jesus Christ, I had trouble with. Once you believe God is real all of it falls into place. Certainly no problem with talking snakes and talking donkeys once you know God is real.

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Message 31 of 163 (768507)
09-10-2015 9:57 PM
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09-10-2015 6:24 PM


Oh they probably provided evidence to each other but the average person had to be content with their artistic renderings in museums and popular science magazines.

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Message 32 of 163 (768508)
09-10-2015 9:58 PM
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09-10-2015 7:53 PM


Oh I could assemble a skeleton myself. Only the parts to that one don't match each other.

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Message 33 of 163 (768509)
09-10-2015 10:03 PM
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09-10-2015 6:16 PM


Hi there DA, long time no see you at EvC.
Yes, because you rather trust a handful of religious extremists with close to zero experience in the field than hundreds of thousands of scientists who have devoted their entire lives to scientific inquiry.
Oh you betcha, because those scientists are all under the spell of a false theory and read it into everything they see.
I don't know any religious extremists personally, but I do trust Gpd.

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Message 37 of 163 (768513)
09-10-2015 10:39 PM
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09-10-2015 10:25 PM


Yeah, "Lucy" is a case of an extreme paucity of actual bones. But the scientific imagination has no problem with that.

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Message 41 of 163 (768517)
09-10-2015 11:59 PM
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09-10-2015 10:56 PM


Why make an issue of talking snakes when the Bible also has water turned to wine, people raised from the dead, Jesus raised from the dead, walking through walls, ascending straight up into heaven, Elijah taken straight to heaven in a chariot, an army of angels revealed surrounding Israel, angels appearing to various prophets, sun standing still or moving backward, dew on fleece when intended to show God's will, not on fleece next day for the same reason, pillar of smoke by day and fire by night to lead the Israelites across the wilderness, manna from heaven, millions of quail dropped on them when they complained about the manna, etc etc etc. And you make a big deal out of a talking snake?
Lucy has more bones than I remembered but still a pathetic excuse for a skeleton.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 42 of 163 (768518)
09-11-2015 12:07 AM
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09-10-2015 11:56 PM


credulous science
The thing is, and this should be obvious, if you compared the skeletons of a few dozen people randomly chosen today they would all be of different sizes, bone density etc. People from a hundred or more years ago tended to be smaller than people today, in England anyway as I understand it, women rarely being taller than five feet for instance. Or, compare the skeleton of a Scandinavian with a small Asian, a tall African with a pygmy. Facial features also differ widely, size and shape of skull, cheekbones, eye sockets, size of mouth, set of teeth, all differ, etc etc etc.
There is something really nave about the way these supposed humanish fossils are presented given the normal differences between people. They don't even bother to give measurements, how tall a person the skeletaon would have represented.

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Message 45 of 163 (768521)
09-11-2015 12:36 AM
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09-11-2015 12:33 AM


Re: incredible creationists
Whole arrays of skulls are often presented as if to prove differences between some ancient type of human and today's, but they all just look like normal variations on skulls you see walking down the street every day.

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