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Topic: Are religions manmade and natural or supernaturally based?
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Pressie
Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: 06-18-2010
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Message 320 of 511 (772383)
11-13-2015 6:56 AM
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Reply to: Message 316 by Raphael
11-13-2015 4:19 AM
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Re: Raphael's many errors Part 3
Raphael gave a classic Gish Gallop!
Raphael writes: All this to say: It is historical fact that we have more evidence of the life of Jesus than we do for the Roman invasion of Gaul (we have 4 accounts of Jesus life, 1 of the invasion). We've got DNA. What do you think about that?
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Pressie
Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: 06-18-2010
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Message 333 of 511 (772561)
11-16-2015 2:39 AM
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Reply to: Message 324 by Raphael
11-13-2015 3:30 PM
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Re: Raphael's many errors Part 3
Raphael writes: Then, my friend, you delude yourself. We make beliefs about things every single day, subconsciously and consciously... Nope, not me. I don't make a choice of whether to believe or not. I am convinced about some things; about others I'm not. I don't choose to believe anything. No choice involved. To me it seems as if you think that everyone on earth thinks like you. Not everyone else does.
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Pressie
Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: 06-18-2010
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Message 334 of 511 (772562)
11-16-2015 2:46 AM
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Reply to: Message 324 by Raphael
11-13-2015 3:30 PM
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Re: Raphael's many errors Part 3
Raphael writes: My point in using the roman invasion of Gaul is in the literary evidence category. Then your point fails miserably. We have plenty of empirical, verifiable evidence that Gaul once formed part of the Roman Empire. You like your Gish Gallops, don't you?
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Pressie
Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: 06-18-2010
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Message 335 of 511 (772563)
11-16-2015 3:00 AM
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Reply to: Message 324 by Raphael
11-13-2015 3:30 PM
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Re: Raphael's many errors Part 3
This post from Raphael was such a mess, a typical Gish Gallop.
Rapheal writes: 1. If there were a God, does Jesus fit into the category of what we would think God is like? No, not actually. From some Christian scriptures, I get that Jesus allegedly said (decades after the alleged event was supposed to have happened), that he didn't know when the world would end. He allegedly said that he didn't know, only his father knew. So, no, I don't think that that Jesus fitted into a category of what I would think any God is like.
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Pressie
Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: 06-18-2010
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Message 336 of 511 (772564)
11-16-2015 4:19 AM
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Reply to: Message 324 by Raphael
11-13-2015 3:30 PM
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Re: Raphael's many errors Part 3
You do like the Gish Gallop, don't you? Raphael writes: But as I have already stated, always needing what we would call "hard evidence" before making conclusions is an assumption about epistemology. It is a presupposition about the way knowledge is even attained or gathered. Gathering hard evidence before being able to arrive at a reliable explanation is not an assumption. It's a conclusion. It works. Very well. On all aspects of life.
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Pressie
Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: 06-18-2010
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Re: Can anything other than people be morally good or evil?
Does anyone here watch those You Tube videos? I don't.
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Pressie
Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: 06-18-2010
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Re: Can anything other than people be morally good or evil?
But, Boob Tubes are sexy...
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 372 by Omnivorous, posted 11-19-2015 7:49 AM | | Omnivorous has not replied |
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Pressie
Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: 06-18-2010
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Message 380 of 511 (772882)
11-20-2015 4:47 AM
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Reply to: Message 378 by ICANT
11-20-2015 1:56 AM
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ICANT writes: And how would you propose a natural power could begin to exist in non existence? Why would a natural power have to begin to exist? Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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| Replies to this message: | | | Message 392 by ICANT, posted 11-24-2015 2:13 AM | | Pressie has replied |
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Pressie
Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: 06-18-2010
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Message 390 of 511 (773012)
11-23-2015 6:02 AM
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Reply to: Message 386 by Raphael
11-21-2015 8:44 PM
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Re: Raphael's many errors Part 3
Raphael writes: So how would you define a "spook?" Woooooo!
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Pressie
Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: 06-18-2010
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Message 394 of 511 (773056)
11-24-2015 7:23 AM
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Reply to: Message 392 by ICANT
11-24-2015 2:13 AM
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ICANT writes: Do you know of any natural power that exists outside of the universe? Do you know of any supernatural powers that exist outside of the universe?
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Pressie
Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: 06-18-2010
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Message 404 of 511 (773136)
11-25-2015 7:46 AM
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Reply to: Message 401 by ICANT
11-25-2015 1:10 AM
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ICANT writes: Yes, my best friend. No, you don't. You believe it. (By the way, I object to you calling me your best friend. My best friend is my wife. We've been married for 30 years. You sound desperate. Don't you have any real friends? My real friends are around me and I can talk to them every day and invite them for braais every now and then. You and me don't know each other from a bar of soap. You sound so much like one of those second-hand car salesmen with the greasy hair we see in ads on tv. They tend to call people they've never personally met their best friends). Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie
Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: 06-18-2010
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Message 409 of 511 (773182)
11-26-2015 6:59 AM
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Reply to: Message 407 by Percy
11-25-2015 3:20 PM
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Percy, I find that ICANT completely devaluates what the word friendship means. I treasure friends.
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 407 by Percy, posted 11-25-2015 3:20 PM | | Percy has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 411 by Percy, posted 11-26-2015 8:04 AM | | Pressie has replied |
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Pressie
Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: 06-18-2010
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Message 410 of 511 (773183)
11-26-2015 7:10 AM
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Reply to: Message 405 by vimesey
11-25-2015 9:13 AM
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vimesey writes: I may be wrong, but I think ICANT may be referring to his god when he says his best friend ? Maybe. ICANT seems quite needy in forming friendships. Maybe I'm his God? (What's the emoticon for a god pulling his hair out out of complete frustration with His emotionally unstable subjects?) Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie
Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: 06-18-2010
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Message 418 of 511 (773239)
11-27-2015 6:20 AM
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Reply to: Message 411 by Percy
11-26-2015 8:04 AM
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Percy writes: You asked ICANT if he knew of any supernatural powers outside the universe. ICANT replied that he did, namely God, his best friend. Ok, so I misunderstood his answer. I still take exception to his answer. He devalues friendship. He believes that a Spook is his best friend.
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Pressie
Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: 06-18-2010
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Message 442 of 511 (773334)
11-30-2015 5:55 AM
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Reply to: Message 423 by ICANT
11-27-2015 1:26 PM
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ICANT writes: But that Supernatural Power is my best friend. He has saw me through times in my life when I needed a friend. How do you know that it was a he? Voice? Sexual organs? Adam's Apple?
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