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Author Topic:   Life - an Unequivicol Definition
Tangle
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Message 48 of 374 (772720)
11-18-2015 9:08 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by AlphaOmegakid
11-18-2015 8:54 AM


Re: Word Magik
AOk writes:


I am simply trying to define what is alive and what is not. An important delineation

But it's been shown to be an exercise in word play that serves little useful purpose.

We have no definitional issues with virtually everything that is living and everything that is not. There are a miniscule number of artefacts to which there is a controversy. That's just the complication of the natural world, somehow we live with it.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 50 of 374 (772741)
11-18-2015 11:32 AM
Reply to: Message 49 by AlphaOmegakid
11-18-2015 11:14 AM


AOk writes:

One man's word play is another man's scientific and published paper. Right?

It's still a "so what?" issue.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 52 of 374 (772751)
11-18-2015 12:13 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by AlphaOmegakid
11-18-2015 12:10 PM


You got it. So time to fuck around with something that actually matters perhaps?

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 128 of 374 (773244)
11-27-2015 8:27 AM
Reply to: Message 126 by Pressie
11-27-2015 7:54 AM


Re: death and extinction -- a part of evolution
Pressie writes:

There's no real distinction between being alive or not.

Oh I think there is. We (science), can agree on 99.9999% of stuff in the world and say for each that it is either alive or dead. And for the rest you can legitimately say:

It all is blurry.

And that's an end to it.

Alternatively you can squabble for weeks on an internet forum attempting to resolve the unresolvable.

But hey, that's life ;-).


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 192 of 374 (773528)
12-03-2015 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 191 by AlphaOmegakid
12-03-2015 12:55 PM


Re: Black White or Grey?
AOK writes:

By doing that you have drawn an "obvious" line somewhere within your mind. You haven't said where that line exists, but it obviously is "obvious" to you.

A cow is alive a rock is not. Where has the line been drawn?

A virus seems alive in some circumstances. We're undecided. We have a problem because we can't see a line.

Tell me, is a seed alive?


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 203 of 374 (773544)
12-03-2015 4:29 PM
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12-03-2015 2:41 PM


Re: Black White or Grey?
AOK writes:

Some are, and some are not. I will post more on this to RAZD. There are dead seeds.

Sure and there are dead cows. But no live rocks. But where is your line?


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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Message 302 of 374 (774293)
12-15-2015 4:30 PM
Reply to: Message 301 by RAZD
12-15-2015 4:13 PM


Re: The horse is just about dead!
RAZD writes:

Agnostics

No such thing. You Deist, you.


Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.


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