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Theodoric
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Message 63 of 138 (774416)
12-17-2015 1:49 PM


My take on the faux outrage
Why the hell would I say Merry Christmas in November or Dec 15 or any other freaking day besides Christmas Day? It is only Christmas that one day so that one day I say Merry Christmas every other day it is happy freaking holidays.
It is amazing these christians get so butt hurt because someone will not say Merry Christmas. How come jewish people are not whining about Hanukkah? Before the US became so damn commercial Christmas was a solemn day without celebration. I think it can be said and shown that most Christian in the US have a very tenuous grasp on their religion. Even the fundies have a poor concept of their religion, therefore they need constant reinforcement.
All I can say to all to the hurt "christians" is; Grow the fuck up. No one is trying to insult you or your religion. Just because you think it is special does not make it incumbent upon me to treat you or your religion with any more respect or disrespect than I would any other person or religion.
Happy Holidays!!
On Christmas day I will say Merry Christmas to my family. Then it is back to Happy Holidays until January 6.
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Message 64 of 138 (774418)
12-17-2015 2:10 PM


Damn Christians started war on Christmas
Ahh, so it was Protestants that started the war on Christmas. Poke, poke.
quote:
But the public celebration of Christmas can be cancelled, which is what happened in England during the seventeenth-century Civil War.
Here’s the story in brief—as related by Diane Purkiss in The English Civil War: While Charles I was fighting during the 1640s for his crown (which he would lose along with his life in 1649), an increasingly radical Parliament governed England. In the words of Purkiss, that transhistorical killjoy a Parliamentary subcommittee was created in 1643 to reform the Church of England. It regarded the liturgical calendar of medieval Christianity as both a symbol of Catholicism and a distraction from the Gospel. Sunday was the only holy day worth honoring. All other festivals, including Christmas, should be cancelled.
http://www.patheos.com/...ear-christians-cancelled-christmas
I wonder what sort of penalty a hearty "Merry Christmas" would have gotten you under that regime.
Edited by Theodoric, : Forgot link

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Message 75 of 138 (774467)
12-18-2015 9:17 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by New Cat's Eye
12-17-2015 4:55 PM


Re: My take on the faux outrage
For one: you might want tell someone to have a Merry Christmas beforehand if you aren't going to see them until afterwards, e.g. a coworker.
But that isn't what all the butt hurt christians are whining about is it? They re all hurt because the random stranger at the local Quickie Mart isn't using the phrase.
You should be telling that to the PC people who claim that wishing someone a Merry Christmas marginalizes other faiths.
Ok here your argument is just stupid. I know of no one saying that Christians should be prohibited from saying Merry Christmas in their personal relations. I do understand companies wanting to give a more inclusive holiday greeting. In no way is that decision an attack on christianity. You christians really need to experience marginalization and attacks on your religion so you can know what it really is.
I dunno, but unlike Hanukkah, Christmas is a secular Federal holiday.
WTF does that have to do with the whole saying Merry Christmas thing. I think you may have truly lost it on this if you think that strengthens your argument.

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Message 79 of 138 (774517)
12-18-2015 3:05 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by NoNukes
12-18-2015 1:14 PM


but most people understand that the link is not part of the traditional meaning.
I think you and most christians misunderstand the traditional meaning. Merry in relationship to Christmas was frowned upon by some in the 19th century. Christians are acting as if the term Merry Christmas and Christmas itself are somehow rooted in the bible. The idea that the phrase Merry Christmas is religious or solemn, is ludicrous on its face.
People would do well to read about the history of Christmas. Wikipedia gives a good overview.
Christmas - Wikipedia
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Message 82 of 138 (774526)
12-18-2015 4:14 PM
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12-18-2015 3:32 PM


I am sorry I must have misread your post or misunderstand the point you were making. My fault entirely.
I don't think "Merry Christmas" is particularly religious or solemn.
I agree, but it seems the ones whining do not feel the same way.

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