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Bliyaal
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Message 116 of 237 (774724)
12-21-2015 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by Faith
12-21-2015 1:12 PM


Re: Beware of the Islamic Principle of Taquiya
What I know is that none of the Muslims I have met subscribes to your vision of Islam.
tahkeeya:
Taqiyya: Deception and Lying in Islam
There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause of Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.
The Qur'an:
Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.
Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim should appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel that way..
http://quran.com/16/106
quote:
Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief... except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who [willingly] open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah , and for them is a great punishment;
Those "circumstances" are only that you can lie and say you renounce your faith if you're forced to do it. I don't seen anything there saying that you can lie to advance the cause of Islam... well except if, like you with your bible, you cherry pick, twist it and interpret it to make it say what you want.
http://quran.com/3/28
quote:
Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah , except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination.
Allies, not friends. You know like most countries do... The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The Qur'an predicted modern politics! You should now be a believer.

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Bliyaal
Member (Idle past 2394 days)
Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
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Message 117 of 237 (774725)
12-21-2015 1:59 PM
Reply to: Message 115 by Faith
12-21-2015 1:53 PM


Re: Beware of the Islamic Principle of Taquiya
Why don't you trust the book instead? I mean, you surely don't like when atheists do the same with websites quote mining your bible.

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Bliyaal
Member (Idle past 2394 days)
Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
Joined: 02-17-2012


Message 120 of 237 (774728)
12-21-2015 2:28 PM
Reply to: Message 118 by Faith
12-21-2015 2:15 PM


Re: Beware of the Islamic Principle of Taquiya
There are various ways "the book" is interpreted by Islamic legal experts. And it contradicts itself. Sometimes it sounds tolerant, but most of the time it treats all nonMuslims as infidels subject to Muslim domination, and outright murder; hence all those beheadings lately. NonMuslims in Muslim countries have been subjected to heavy taxes and humiliations like being pushed off the sidewalk to let Muslims pass.
Atrocities have been made in the name of your god too you know... citing your prefered version of the bible.
Perhaps being in a nonMuslim country that has power over them they don't want to say anything that could get them in trouble, so that would be a reason to lie about the religion.
Did you read my previous reply to you, I shown it to be false except if you twist it. But it seems like radica christians, like you, or muslims, can't help it.
Edited by Bliyaal, : No reason given.

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Bliyaal
Member (Idle past 2394 days)
Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
Joined: 02-17-2012


Message 122 of 237 (774733)
12-21-2015 3:16 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by Faith
12-21-2015 2:37 PM


Re: Beware of the Islamic Principle of Taquiya
Nice non-answer.
Happy winter solstice.

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