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Author Topic:   Jesus and his sacrifice is Satan’s test of man’s morality.
Bliyaal
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Message 265 of 478 (775902)
01-06-2016 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 264 by kbertsche
01-06-2016 2:01 PM


Re: misrepresentation
The commands for genocide were restricted to a particular time, place, and situation, and are not normative for today.

How killing babies was ever good?


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Bliyaal
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Message 277 of 478 (775988)
01-07-2016 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 274 by kbertsche
01-07-2016 12:17 PM


Re: misrepresentation
Here we see a difference between a believer and an unbeliever. An unbeliever (like you two) will set himself as an authority above God, and will question and judge God at every step. A believer will trust and obey God. Abraham is uniformly praised in Scripture for his faith in God and his willingness to obey whatever God commanded. He did the right thing in obeying God.

Even if I was a believer, I would still prefer to spend an eternity in hell with the good guy instead of the monster you worship.


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Bliyaal
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Message 288 of 478 (776002)
01-07-2016 2:44 PM
Reply to: Message 278 by Faith
01-07-2016 1:41 PM


Re: misrepresentation
Just wondering if you could bring yourself to try to see Abraham's obedience the way believers have seen it for many millennia: as a noble act of faith in the the one true trustworthy good God?

I started out as a believer Faith, indoctrinated from a young age. I never took it literally though and never saw killing children as something good. You see, I think almost all humans are born with some degrees of empathy. It was religion that took yours away.


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Bliyaal
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From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
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Message 309 of 478 (776061)
01-08-2016 7:57 AM
Reply to: Message 291 by Faith
01-07-2016 3:07 PM


Re: misrepresentation
I have empathy for those under God's judgment

In your theology, aren't we all under god's judgment? You seem to make a distinction to justify the killing of babies.


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Bliyaal
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Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
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Message 310 of 478 (776062)
01-08-2016 8:00 AM
Reply to: Message 298 by Faith
01-07-2016 3:22 PM


Re: misrepresentation
The moral bankruptcy here is that of those who fail to recognize the horrific deeds God was punishing in those incidents you decry.

What did the babies do that was so horrific Faith? Allowed to be born by your god?


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Bliyaal
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Message 320 of 478 (776090)
01-08-2016 1:32 PM
Reply to: Message 317 by Faith
01-08-2016 12:11 PM


Re: misrepresentation
I have sympathy for anyone under God's judgments for any reason. That's what I said, that's what I meant.

What about answering my question instead of evading it?

Also, I would like an answer to my other question : What did the babies do that was so horrific Faith?

Edited by Bliyaal, : No reason given.


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Bliyaal
Member (Idle past 597 days)
Posts: 171
From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada
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Message 457 of 478 (776747)
01-19-2016 1:47 PM
Reply to: Message 455 by Faith
01-19-2016 12:39 PM


Re: The point has been fully made
The assertions are that the Church believes Christ was the subject of the Old Testament

Oh really? Let's take a look at it. You wrote :

She'd have to be told that the Hebrew scriptures all pointed toward the Messiah Jesus, that that was their purpose and that He fulfilled it all.

Not quite the same thing isn't it?


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