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Author Topic:   The great basic question of science on origin of life
Percy
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Message 7 of 64 (776483)
01-14-2016 8:42 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Vladimir Matveev
01-14-2016 8:02 AM


If you'd used the quote codes your message would have looked like this:

RAZD writes:

In the above scenario we could have evaporating ponds providing the concentrations, then the cell membranes to protect them, perhaps in a semi-dormant phase, and then the pump.

Only one question: why membrane sodium pump is needed in the potassium pond? In the pond K+/Na+ ratio is the same as in the living cell.

See RAZD's Message 5 for an explanation of how to use quote codes, or see dBCode help for quoting. You can also click the Peek button for this message, but in that case ignore my use of the [indent] and [blockcolor]. They're only there for presentation purposes.

--Percy


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Message 13 of 64 (776490)
01-14-2016 10:25 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Vladimir Matveev
01-14-2016 10:10 AM


Vladimir Matveev writes:

We need physical mechanisms rather than general assumptions. Pump, pump, pump... Where is experimental evidence of its spontaneous origin? There is no evidences, no proofs! No pump, no life.

For the sake of discussion let's say that there's no pump, and that that means there's no life. But obviously there's life, so what does the absence of a sodium pump mean to you?

--Percy


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Message 44 of 64 (776787)
01-20-2016 7:50 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by Vladimir Matveev
01-20-2016 12:24 AM


Re: Silence
Vladimir Matveev writes:

Prior to the publication, I asked for 60-70 specialists in the West: in which point I'm wrong? All (all!) of them chose to remain silent.

Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and get back to work researching and developing more effectively persuasive evidence and arguments. Wegener didn't begin letter writing campaigns with laypeople after rejection of his continental drift ideas, he just kept working. He died during a data gathering expedition in Greenland. Don't let the bitterness of rejection cause you to waste your time on Internet discussion boards. Stiff upper lip, old boy, and all that. Keep on pluggin'.

--Percy


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