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Author Topic:   The great basic question of science on origin of life
Pressie
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Message 20 of 64 (776526)
01-15-2016 7:38 AM


I'm wondering why you put this or these questions (not being a biologist of biochemist or anything like that at all) on evc and not in any scientific journal where he specialists would know what you're talking about? I'm smelling a dead rat.

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Message 22 of 64 (776528)
01-15-2016 7:58 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by Vladimir Matveev
01-15-2016 7:51 AM


The first step is to publish your research in relevant peer-reviewed scientific journals.

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Message 24 of 64 (776530)
01-15-2016 8:10 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by Vladimir Matveev
01-15-2016 8:00 AM


Vladimir Matveev writes:

Done: http://journals.cambridge.org/abstract_S1473550415000476

So, why do you write here amongst the non-specialists? Something still smells like a dead rat.

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Message 26 of 64 (776532)
01-15-2016 8:19 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by Vladimir Matveev
01-15-2016 8:00 AM


Vladimeer Matveev writes:

Done: http://journals.cambridge.org/abstract_S1473550415000476

So, I take it that your paper was deemed as being pretty horrendous amongst your peers and now you are trying to cry on non-peer shoulders?

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Message 41 of 64 (776719)
01-19-2016 6:37 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by NoNukes
01-15-2016 4:33 PM


NoNukes writes:

I am a bit confused by your objection. Don't we want serious discussion here? I for one want to understand Vlad's claims and examine them for what they reveal. Even if they simply point to gaps in our knowledge, that discussion is useful.

Actually, what would be more useful to me, personally, would be objections to his article from the specialists on the subject. I can learn from the specific objections given by them.

To me it seems as if Vlad is trying to bypass all those thousands of specialists on the subject and then wants to shout "victory".


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Message 46 of 64 (776792)
01-20-2016 8:30 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by Vladimir Matveev
01-20-2016 12:24 AM


Re: Silence
Vladimir writes:

All the experts are trying to solve the problem of the origin of life only through protocells as the membrane compartments.

Really? That's not the impression I got from the work of specialists such as Craig Venter and his labs. Has he reviewed your work?


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Message 52 of 64 (788939)
08-08-2016 7:30 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by Vladimir Matveev
08-07-2016 5:16 AM


Re: Oral presentation
Vladimir Matveev writes:

I'm probably missing something here, but I'm not sure I quite see what specific problem your model solves. Hey, Genomics, Phase approach has full experimental evidences in support of. Membrane approach has no such evidences. My (phase) model disproves membrane approach. However, the membrane approach is commonly accepted approach to solving the problem of the origin of life. This is my main contribution. Thanks for the answer.

So, you agree that life was not poofed into existence.

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Message 54 of 64 (788942)
08-08-2016 8:27 AM
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08-08-2016 7:53 AM


Re: Oral presentation
Vladimir Matveev writes:

Biophase is the physical basis of life, and therefore it originated on this basis and exists on the same basis.Please see my presentation for details. Thanks.

So, you agree that life was not poofed into existence?

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Message 56 of 64 (789130)
08-11-2016 8:12 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by Vladimir Matveev
08-08-2016 12:12 PM


Re: Oral presentation
So, you agree that life was not poofed into existence.

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Message 58 of 64 (789257)
08-12-2016 7:21 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by NoNukes
08-11-2016 9:47 AM


Re: Oral presentation
No, he didn't. At all. I do know that life isn't poofed into existence.

I can look at myself. I am the product of a "sperm" from my father and an "egg" from my mother. I wasn't poofed into existence. All those boil down to would be called chemical reactions. I'm a result of chemical reactions. So, I do know that life isn't poofed into existence. No Spooks involved.

What's his evidence that life can be poofed into existence?

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