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Message 169 of 230 (880521)
08-07-2020 2:23 AM


I consider myself a Fundamental Christian, yet I believe that Reincarnation is in fact Biblical.

Yes, Jesus really did teach Reincarnation.

In fact...

Reincarnation is one of the biggest themes in the Bible, yet Christians are taught otherwise and thus, they can't see it.

This is one of the few forums on the internet that allows this topic to even be discussed.

It is a HIGHLY censored topic. I know why.


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Message 172 of 230 (880555)
08-07-2020 1:00 PM
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08-07-2020 8:11 AM


Juvenissun writes:

I guess you may mistake "incarnation" as "reincarnation".
If you did not, then please tell me one case of reincarnation suggested in the Scripture.

Hi Juvenissun.

There are several examples of reincarnation in the Bible. The first one is in the book of Genesis.

God originally created two beings called Adam and Ishshah. Those two ended up partaking of the Forbidden Fruit.

God made it clear that anyone who partook of the Forbidden Fruit would 'surely die'.

Genesis 2:17
"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

And that's exactly what happened. Adam and Ishshah died... completely and totally.

Because Christians are taught reincarnation is not Biblical, the Church had to make up a lie to cover this up. Christians are therefore *told* that Adam and Ishshah died a 'Spiritual Death'.

In other words, they didn't really die as God said they would. Thus, according to this false doctrine, God lied.

The Truth is that since Adam and Ishshah died, God had to resurrect them, judge them, pass them through the Lake of Fire, and ultimately reincarnate them into completely new and different bodies.

The newly reincarnated Adam kept the same name. However, the reincarnated Ishshah received a new name... Eve.

Long story short, Adam and Ishshah died and were reincarnated as Adam and Eve.


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Message 174 of 230 (880562)
08-07-2020 2:54 PM
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08-07-2020 2:24 PM


Juvenissun writes:

Assume your story is believable. Why should Adam still keep his old name? Don't say you do not know. Because your reincarnation argument leans totally on the name change of Eve.

The answer as to why Adam kept his name has not been completely revealed to me yet, however I believe it has something to do with this verse...

1 Corinthians 15:45
"And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit."

The fact that the Bible goes out of its way to teach that there is more than one Adam says a lot in my opinion.

As far as my argument leaning on name change...

No.

The name change is simply a side note as to what actually happened. Let's be clear on this. God gave Adam and Ishshah completely different bodies.

In other words, God took the Soul and Spirit of Adam and Ishshah from one body and placed them in another. Technically speaking, that is reincarnation. Since their was no Earth Mother to be reincarnated into, God had to do this process manually.

How do we know? God says so...

Genesis 3:16
"Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."

Previously, a Man was made from the dust of the ground and a Woman was made from a rib. BTW, we call this Cloning. This method would now be changed to an entirely new system called 'conception'.

Ishshah's new body would now have a uterus and something called 'Seed of the Woman' or as we call it, an Ovum. Adam's new body would now produce something called 'The Seed of the Serpent' which we call Sperm. God put 'enmity' between the Sperm and the Ovum...

Genesis 3:15
"And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."

The above verse is speaking of fertilization. The Ovum is 'bruised' while the Sperm 'injures its head' during Conception. Again, the Church has to lie and say the Seed of the Woman is Jesus or some nonsense to cover what's really going on.

The bottom line here is that the only way for Adam and Ishshah's punishment to occur, they had to have been placed into completely different bodies with physiology designed to produce children through conception and birth via the Womb.


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Message 176 of 230 (880589)
08-07-2020 8:46 PM
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08-07-2020 6:57 PM


Juvenissun writes:

Put Adam and Eve aside, do you have another example of "reincarnation" described in the Scripture?

Let's look at the most obvious example... everyone here. How did you get here? How did I get here?

According to Scripture, we came from the 'Lowest Parts of the Earth'. In other words, we all came from Hell...

Psalms 139:15
"My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth."

Here is a graphic to help illustrate the point...

What the Bible clearly teaches is that Hell is a parable for the Womb and the process of Reincarnation.

The verse is literal, yet again the Church has to hide this from everyone and claim that verses like that are merely 'poetry'.

Adam and Ishah's 'eyes were opened' because they had just been resurrected from being dead. This was the Resurrection of the Damned...

John 5:29
"And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation."

They were subsequently judged and made to 'pass through the Fire'. That is what the Flaming Sword and Cherubim were. They were symbolic of the Lake of Fire.

Those that are thrown into the Lake of Fire pass through it. They don't 'burn forever' or are 'annihilated'. How do we know? Because the concept of the Lake of Fire comes from the Old Testament and the Valley of the Son of Hinnom...

Leviticus 18:21
"And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD"

Molech is simply an allusion to the Womb and the process of reincarnation. Moloch is another version of the Golden Calf. The Golden Calf is Hathor which means 'Womb of Horus'. Hathor is the Earth Mother... she is Mystery Babylon. She is the Sycamore Fig Tree in the Garden of Eden...

Look at what Jesus says about Hell...

Matthew 23:15
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves."

How much clearer can Jesus be? Child of Hell means Child of Hell. It is as literal as can be. It is not 'poetry' and it is not a 'figure of speech'.

Note that the word Hell is translated from Gehenna which is the Lake of Fire.

So to summarize...

Those thrown into the Lake of Fire pass through it to be reincarnated. We are all Children of Hell.


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Message 178 of 230 (880649)
08-08-2020 10:22 PM
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08-08-2020 9:27 AM


Juvenissun writes:

Reincarnation means I had a previous "human" life.

I agree with you that reincarnation refers to having a past life as a human... or in some cases as a 'human like' being.

I assure you that the Bible teaches both reincarnation and resurrection. Resurrection happens first, then one of two things happen...

1) The Unsaved get reincarnated back into human form again.

or...

2) The Saved get a new 'Glorified Body'.

Juvenissun writes:

If so, how many times can one "reincarnate"?


That's an excellent question. I think of that often.

From what I can see in Scripture, it depends on the sentence and punishment.

The whole point of the Unsaved being judged is to determine the severity of their crimes that must be reconciled.

Like the concept of Karma, the punishment is to 'reap what one has sown'.

Revelation 20:13
"And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works."

If everyone received the exact same punishment (i.e. burning forever or annihilation), then there would be no point in judging 'according to their works'.

What is the point of adding up every sin if it only takes one sin to be guilty? That would be an incredibly unfair system.

Therefore, once the sins are tallied up, that person will now have to live as many lives as necessary to 'reap what they have sown'.

That is a fair system. It also explains why some of us have a worse life than others. It explains why life seems so unfair for some and not others.

Let's be honest here. Not everyone is born into good health and opportunity. It is most likely because of what we did in our past lives.

Now of course as a Christian, we believe that Jesus will cover for us and get us out of that legal mess.

Here is a verse that may answer your question...

Psalms 12:6
"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times."

As Earthen Vessels, could it be that we are reincarnated seven times to be purified?


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Message 179 of 230 (880650)
08-08-2020 10:25 PM


This man makes some excellent points on how Jesus taught reincarnation...


  
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Message 180 of 230 (880651)
08-08-2020 10:32 PM


I believe this has been covered already, but Jesus taught that John the Baptist was Elias (Elijah) reincarnated.

Christians are taught "it's not literal because that would contradict the lies we tell".

Sorry folks, the words of Jesus stand...

Matthew 11:14
"And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come."

THIS IS ELIAS means just that!

The debate is over. The only way to reconcile that verse with the lie that reincarnation is not Biblical is to say Jesus lied. PERIOD.

Jesus even goes as far as to say 'if ye will receive it', meaning most Christians will not be able to recieve this profound Wisdom.

I have received it... loud and clear.


  
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Message 181 of 230 (880653)
08-09-2020 12:14 AM


Let's take a deeper look at the Lake of Fire.

It is *not* a 'final destination', it is a PORTAL. Those that are thrown into it go THROUGH it and backwards into the Timeline.

How do we know? The Lake of Fire comes from the Old Testament and the Valley of the Son of Hinnom, commonly called Gehenna...

2 Chronicles 33:6
"And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger."

Notice they pass *though* the fire. That phrase is used many times in the Bible to re-emphasize this extremely important fact.

The above is our first clue as to what happens to the Unsaved. Our second clue comes from Jesus himself...

Matthew 23:15 (Young's Literal Translation)
"Woe to you, Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye go round the sea and the dry land to make one proselyte, and whenever it may happen -- ye make him a son of gehenna twofold more than yourselves."

Not only does Jesus use the phrase 'Son of Gehenna', implying that Gehenna is where this person is born from, but Jesus also implies that the Scribes and Pharisees come from the Lake of Fire as well!

If that wasn't enough, Jesus also uses the word 'twofold', meaning that the person was not only reincarnated from the Lake of Fire one time, but that person is already pre-destined to have to be reincarnated AGAIN!

This is one of many 'Smoking Gun' verses in the Bible that clearly indicate that the Lake of Fire is a place where Humans are born from.

Let's look even deeper still...

Jeremiah 19:6
"Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that this place shall no more be called Tophet, nor The valley of the son of Hinnom, but The valley of slaughter."

The word Tophet, another name for the Lake of Fire, means Hearth. The word Hearth in this context is actually the Goddess Hestia, also known as Vesta...

So what did Vesta look like? Let's let Wikipedia teach us...

"The myths depicting Vesta and her priestesses were few, and were limited to tales of miraculous impregnation by a phallus appearing in the flames of the hearth —the manifestation of the goddess."

Vesta (mythology) - Wikipedia

Did you catch that?

Vesta, the Eternal Flame and Goddess of the Lake of Fire, manifests herself as a picture of the Moment of Conception!!!

Thus, the Lake of Fire is none other than a Phallus impregnating a Womb.

Remember, this is the Bible teaching us this, not 'New Age' or 'Gnosticism'. However, the Alchemists DID catch on to this fact and encoded this information into their artwork...

The above image depicts the Lake of Fire and the Sides of the Pit, yet is also is a picture of the Moment of Conception.

He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

One more...

Isaiah 29:2 (New International Version)
"Yet I will besiege Ariel; she will mourn and lament, she will be to me like an altar hearth."

Again, the word Hearth (Vesta) has to do with the Eternal Fire of the Altar of Sacrifice and the Lake of Fire.

But wait! The verse reveals a Mystery. This Goddess of the Eternal Fire has another name... Ariel...

Ariel is an angel found primarily in Jewish and Christian mysticism and Apocrypha. The literal meaning is "lion of God."

Ariel (angel) - Wikipedia

And guess what?

Ariel is also known as Uriel, the Archangel of the Garden of Eden that wields the Flaming Sword...

Uriel is often identified as a cherub and the angel of repentance. He "stands at the Gate of Eden with a fiery sword."

Uriel - Wikipedia

And there you have it. The Cherubim and Flaming Sword in the Garden of Eden represents the Lake of Fire in which Adam and Eve passed through to become reincarnated into the corrupted bodies we have today.


  
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Message 182 of 230 (880654)
08-09-2020 12:29 AM
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08-08-2020 9:27 AM


Juvenissun writes:

Thanks much for the elaboration. However, to your disappointment, I only see "resurrection" in your argument, but not "reincarnation".

I forgot to mention that the Biblical term for reincarnation is 'Mystery of Iniquity'. That's what it means!

Lol...

The Mystery of Iniquity is like this big 'unsolvable mystery' to the Christian world. They endlessly debate as to what it means and who this 'Restrainer' is. It is NOT the Holy Ghost as is commonly taught.

Again, this is what happens when the Church decides to embrace a lie. The Truth is right there in plain sight, yet they can't see it because they've been programmed not to.

So sad.

Mystery of Iniquity = Reincarnation.

Now you know.


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Message 183 of 230 (880655)
08-09-2020 1:02 AM
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08-08-2020 9:27 AM


Juvenissun writes:

Reincarnation means I had a previous "human" life.
If so, how many times can one "reincarnate"?

Last post for tonight...

I'm fairly certain that the reason the Beast and the Dragon have seven heads is because that is how many times they have reincarnated...

Revelation 12:3
"And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads."

Revelation 13:1
"And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."

The Dragon is Satan who is Spirit. In order for Satan to appear in Human form, he must be birthed as a Beast.

The Beast that rises out of the sea is something that occurs a total of seven times. That is why both Dragon and Beast have seven heads. Each head of the Beast is an incarnation.

The first time Satan is reincarnated into Human form is something I am still researching, however a likely candidate is Pharaoh...

Ezekiel 29:3
"Speak, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his rivers, which hath said, My river is mine own, and I have made it for myself."

Notice Pharaoh is referred to as the Great Dragon, meaning Satan is reincarnated in Human form. This is the first head of the Beast.

As time goes on, Satan reincarnates over and over again until finally, there will one day be a Seventh Head.

So it's something like...

1) King of Egypt
2) King of Assyria
3) King of Greece
4) King of Persia
5) King of Greece
6) King of Rome
7) TBD

Soon their will be a final reincarnation of Satan in Human form. I say Human form because I am not sure if this being will be 100% Human or some sort of GMO Hybrid.


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Message 196 of 230 (880692)
08-09-2020 1:55 PM
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08-09-2020 1:09 PM


Re: Introducing Base12
Phat writes:

I do not believe we have met. Welcome to EvC.

Hi Phat. Nice to meet you. Thanks for the warm welcome and the advice.

I actually don't like to advertise my site as I prefer to be as anonymous as possible.

It's refreshing to see folks take discussions seriously. I look forward to learning more.


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Message 197 of 230 (880695)
08-09-2020 3:27 PM
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08-09-2020 1:36 PM


Re: Questions For Base12
Phat writes:

I bet you have a lot of critics that charge you with preaching a false gospel.


Yes, unfortunately their "criticism" is usually ad-hominem which is frustrating. True debate is becoming a lost art.

Phat writes:

Tell me a bit about your religious background. Did you simply go out and start your own or are you in a sub culture with other like minded believers?

Most of my family is Catholic, but we rarely went to Church. I didn't start studying the Bible until the early 2000's. That's when I decided being Catholic was not for me. I consider myself non-denominational because I feel like I am forced to believe what they tell me as opposed to what is written.

Phat writes:

1) Concerning the Holy Ghost vs the Electron metaphor, how was this "obvious truth" revealed to you and yet so many Christians have missed it?


I try and take verses as literal as possible. In my opinion, Godhead means Trinity. Thus after reading Romans 1:20...

...it's not rocket science to figure out what three components make up matter. The only thing left to do is to figure out what part of of the Godhead corresponds to which part of the Atom.

Obviously, one of the three components would be the Electron. Now it's a matter of letting Scripture show us which part of the Godhead that would be...

Acts 1:8
"But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judæa, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth."

Everyone knows what Power is. Almost every electronic device we own has a 'Power' button. Most folks press one every day. We know what it does. It sends Electrons through the device to turn it on.

Thus the Holy Ghost represents Power and Electromagnetism. It's really just that obvious. Now of course there are many more verses and evidence to back all of this up, but you get the idea.

My occupation is in Engineering, so perhaps it's more obvious to me than others, however I feel that in this day and age there is no excuse for not knowing this as Romans 1:20 even states at the end.

The problem is that many folks simply choose not to see it. That's the real issue.

Phat writes:

2) The Bible teaches us as believers to be humble, considering others better than ourselves. Pride comes before destruction. Are you aware of the fact that at times you come across as cocky? (For the record, I too am guilty of this at times)


Of course. I do it on purpose from time to time to try and get folks to respond. Many times my posts get ignored, so I throw a bit of Elijah mockery in there to keep things entertaining...

1 Kings 18:27 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.

It's more a jab at the ad-hominem folks that are too lazy to do their homework.

Phat writes:

When you study, do you have any extra-biblical sources apart from the Bible?


Only if that source agrees with the Bible, otherwise, no I don't use anything that contradicts the 66 books.

I'm not a big fan of the Book of Enoch for example or the Gospel of Thomas etc., although I have found some intriguing correlations. The Gospel of Thomas for example has a few reincarnation verses in it, but unfortunately I can't use them in my research as they are not in the standard Bible.


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Message 199 of 230 (880708)
08-09-2020 7:20 PM


How about another example of reincarnation in the Bible?

Let's look at the word 'Pit'...

Isaiah 14:15
"Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."

Earlier we learned that Hell is nothing more than a parable for the Womb and the process of reincarnation.

Now we have a new word associated with Hell called the 'Pit' or even 'Sides of the Pit'.

So is the word Pit another reference to the Womb? Let's let the Word of God teach us...

Isaiah 51:1
"Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged."

Wait what!?

People are digged from a Pit? Perhaps this means they were in a bad predicament.

Let's investigate further...

Isaiah 51:2
"Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him."

Now we see the answer clearly. The 'Pit' in this context is in reference to Sarah, or more specifically, her Womb that bared them.

Now we know what happens to those that get "thrown into the Pit". They are really going back to the Womb to be born again of corruptible flesh...

So where does the Beast come from?

Revelation 17:8
"The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is."

Indeed, the Beast comes out of the Pit to be birthed once again. And just look at the reference to reincarnation!

Was, is not, and yet is.

That is yet another Biblical term for reincarnation...

WAS, IS NOT, AND YET IS = REINCARNATION

Now you know.


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Message 202 of 230 (880719)
08-10-2020 11:39 AM
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Re: Three Opinions
Phat writes:

I see that scripture a third way.
The Beast which you saw once was=Lucifer the angel before he fell


That's seems to be a popular teaching, however I disagree with it.

I believe that it is Satan that fell and became Lucifer, who is just another one of the seven heads.

Satan is the Spirit that falls in order to be birthed into a physical being, over and over again.

Lucifer was in reference to the King of Babylon, most likely Belshazzar...

Isaiah 14:4
"That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!"

Lucifer was a man as can be seen here...

Isaiah 14:16
"They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;"

Jesus saw Satan fall as lightning...

Luke 10:18
"And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven."

This was the moment Satan fell yet again to be birthed as the King of Rome or the sixth head of the Beast. Maybe Nero? I'm still researching this.

Notice that Satan, as Spirit, is like lightning. Think of what I've been trying to teach you folks about Spirit being Electromagnetism.

Think of Ghosts. What are they made of? Think of an Aura or a Halo. It is some form of Energy...

When the Holy Ghost descended on Jesus, it was in a 'bodily shape', like a Ghost we may see in Science Fiction...

Luke 3:22
"And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased."

The above verse is describing some sort of Energy Field surrounding and penetrating his body. Perhaps it is an example of Quantum Entanglement.

That is the same thing as the Eyes in Ezekiel's Wheels. The Wheels represent Electron Orbitals and the Eyes are Electrons because the Spirit was in the Wheels...

Over and over we see Spirit and Electrons/Electromagnetism associated with one another in Scripture.

I'll show one more...

Ezekiel 1:4
And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.

See the word Amber?

Amber is where we get the word Electron from...

"Both electric and electricity are derived from the Latin ēlectrum (also the root of the alloy of the same name), which came from the Greek word for amber, (ēlektron)."

Electron - Wikipedia

Thus, Ezekiel was being shown a representation of Atomic Construct. To put it another way... Ezekiel was shown the Godhead.


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Message 203 of 230 (880722)
08-10-2020 1:48 PM
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Re: Three Opinions
Base12 writes:

That is the same thing as the Eyes in Ezekiel's Wheels. The Wheels represent Electron Orbitals and the Eyes are Electrons because the Spirit was in the Wheels

So again...

EYES = ELECTRONS = SPIRIT

Not convinced?

The Word of God teaches Truth...

Revelation 5:6
"And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."

There you go. Seven Eyes are Seven Spirits. Plain as day.

Now there are some that will shrug this off and go 'meh, so what?'.

They will never see the prize that awaits them when these clues are all added together.

Why does the Lamb have Seven Eyes?

Here is another clue...

2 Chronicles 16:9
"For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars."

The above describes how Electrons 'run to and fro' throughout the Earth like electricity in a circuit.

Again...

Zechariah 4:10
"For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the LORD, which run to and fro through the whole earth."

But why Seven Eyes?

The Seven Eyes are part of the Stone that the Builders Rejected...

Zechariah 3:9
"For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day."

Jesus is the Stone with Seven Eyes. Jesus is the Word of God.

Seven Electrons = Nitrogen... more specifically, a Nitrogenous Base, the Word of God that makes up DNA.

The Lamb with Seven Eyes is a picture of a Nucleobase. The Word Made Flesh...

The Blood of the Lamb is the DNA template by which we all will be grafted into.

Now go back and read what Zerubbabel said the LORD of Hosts will do with said Nucleobase...

"I will engrave the graving thereof"

That is what we call Genetic Engineering.


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