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Phat Member Posts: 14863 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Skepticism is how you learn. There is no dishonor in being an honest skeptic.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain
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Phat Member Posts: 14863 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered.~Proverbs 28:26
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Phat Member Posts: 14863 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
1) Why SHOULD there be a wide space? Social distancing? ![]() 2) What are the unfaithful guilty of? In your mind, what is the final(or the first) straw that broke the camels back? 3)What is the point of increasing punishment? Is not banishment to outer darkness enough? What possible reason would God have to inflict differing degrees of punishment? 4)What is the difference between reincarnation and redemption in a karmic sense? 5)Is reincarnation in any way similar to rejuvenation? 6) What do you personally believe that you need to have in regards to faith that will keep you in communion and on "the team"? "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
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Phat Member Posts: 14863 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I'm not sure how I would feel. I certainly wouldn't be eager to earn my way back into the graces of God were it even possible. Maybe that's why some folks believe in reincarnation...to give the people who missed the first bus another chance. Or maybe that is your point. I would have needed to trust Him in the first place! It seems a bit cruel,however. God sounds wonderful IF you believe and are accepted into the club, but as for the rest of you, its outer darkness and increasing degrees of sin!
Comments? "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
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Phat Member Posts: 14863 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I suppose some would say its a bit like rehiring the workers that had already been fired. Terrible for corporate efficiency.
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
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Phat Member Posts: 14863 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
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Phat Member Posts: 14863 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I do not believe we have met. Welcome to EvC. One thing I will say is that you know how to make professional looking posts.
My critics often accuse me of simply making stuff up when I describe interpretations of Revelation and/or the Bible as I understand it. They no doubt would do the same thing to you. At EvC we challenge each other and it is tempting to take it personally and throw stuff right back at them, but in our Forum Guidelines we emphasize reasoned argumentation over personal attacks. Allow me to be the first member apart from our other newbie Juvenissun who challenges you. Once they get to know you and are unafraid to drive you off, they will out and out ridicule you...so grow your skin thick and pray the armor of God over you that you may stand your ground regarding your beliefs and yet be open minded enough to perhaps learn something from all of us from which to improve your presentations, beliefs, and encounters. This last advice is key. I now realize that you have a web page and no doubt want to plug it but do try and resist that temptation. We have had other members with web pages...I myself have one and yet I try and keep my activity here at the Forum separate from the activities on my page. Anyhow, I hope that you are open enough to question your own beliefs. You and I are both Christians and yet our interpretations may differ. Are you ready to ask questions as well as offering answers? Edited by Phat, : No reason given. "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
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Phat Member Posts: 14863 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Allow me to ask you some questions. 2) The Bible teaches us as believers to be humble, considering others better than ourselves. Pride comes before destruction. Are you aware of the fact that at times you come across as cocky? (For the record, I too am guilty of this at times) When you study, do you have any extra-biblical sources apart from the Bible? "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
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Phat Member Posts: 14863 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I see that scripture a third way.
The Beast which you saw once was=Lucifer the angel before he fell Now is not=since there is only One God, the Beast is not. And yet is for those whose names are not written in the book of life=If you willfully reject Jesus Christ, the Beast becomes your ruling "god" by default. "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
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Phat Member Posts: 14863 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
yeah.
i see where you are coming from. ![]() Try and see where I am at though. If the entire Bible is made up, (which I do NOT believe that it is) then people truly would be making up everything. I do not agree for several reasons. 1) I know to and through the best discernment and inner honesty that i can have that I was saved, that God is real and alive and....and that much I know. People can and do make up anything and everything imaginable using the Bible, including me. I will of course argue that I have insight through the Holy Spirit, but comparing myself with these newbies I see no way anyone would believe me. Im still seeking. I want to get to the full truth. Edited by Phat, : No reason given. "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
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Phat Member Posts: 14863 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
This is the problem with your position, though. In regard to a supernatural God, evidence will never be objectively available unless God Himself chose to reveal it. Thus we are left with reasoned argumentation....or as I like to say, a reasonable philosophical argument....(made up or not) You say I need to start doubting my need for the "truth" but I say that your very doubt pushed you into the lack of belief you have now. "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
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Phat Member Posts: 14863 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
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Phat Member Posts: 14863 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.”- Francis A. Schaeffer “The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.”
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