Phat writes:
You do not know that my belief is not at least partially real.
I know what you tell us your belief is.
You will only argue that it is real to me
That's just a truism.
and that the esteemed default position of the new ruling discipline of "Science" decrees that no belief will ever be real without evidence.
How many times over how many years? If there is evidence, it's not a belief, it's a fact.
This is the problem with your position, though. In regard to a supernatural God, evidence will never be objectively available unless God Himself chose to reveal it.
That is not a problem with my position. That's a problem with his postion.
You say I need to start doubting my need for the "truth"
I do not say that, I say that you need to examine why you feel the need for this so called truth, in the light of the tangible and inescapable evidence that others have your same conviction but for a different god.
Please explain how that is possible.
but I say that your very doubt pushed you into the lack of belief you have now.
Crap, I have no doubt and I don't lack belief. Religious belief is just irrelevant to me, just like fairy dust and unicorn droppings an absurdity.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
™ Version 4.2