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Author Topic:   Explaining the pro-Evolution position
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Message 43 of 393 (792299)
10-07-2016 8:40 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Kleinman
10-07-2016 4:38 PM


more utter bullshit.
Kleinman writes:

Natural selection must do something very specific in order to improve the probability that a beneficial mutation will occur.

Utter and complete bullshit. Total crappola.

Sorry but that is simply so wrong that at best it might be considered a poor attempt at a sophomoric joke.

Natural select simply selects those things that are not so destructive that the critter cannot live long enough to reproduce. The mutations that happen are totally unrelated to Natural Selection as anyone over the age of about ten should be able to understand.

The mutations happen.

Good mutations happen.

Neutral mutations happen.

Destructive mutations happen.

Natural Selection don't really give a damn. Natural Selection has NOTHING to do with what mutations happen.

Stop making such utterly stupid assertions, please.


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Message 50 of 393 (792311)
10-08-2016 8:28 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by Kleinman
10-07-2016 9:03 PM


I wonder if you will understand that the question you ask is irrelevant to the whether or not the word salad I responded to was simply bullshit. To do that requires some basic honesty.

What you have been doing throughout this thread is the totally dishonest tactic of refusing to address the issues presented to you, assuming prior knowledge about the understanding capabilities of the respondents and instead posting an unrelated irrelevant question.

You stated, and I quote:

quote:
Natural selection must do something very specific in order to improve the probability that a beneficial mutation will occur.

That is what I am responding to and that is the point I will continue to address until YOU show a basic understanding of why what you posted is nothing but bullshit.

Edited by jar, : an extraneous "the" not even a thee got in thar


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Message 92 of 393 (792464)
10-10-2016 7:46 AM
Reply to: Message 81 by Kleinman
10-09-2016 10:32 PM


Re: The reason the theory of evolution is not true
Please explain the following four people who won multiple lotteries.

Or maybe these five folk.

You need a basic understanding of probabilities. Strange and unlikely things do happen.

You also need a basic understanding of large numbers. That seems to be missing in your education so far.


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Message 142 of 393 (792545)
10-11-2016 10:31 AM
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10-11-2016 10:21 AM


paths
Taq writes:

Like the old saying goes, there is more than one way to skin a cat, and that usually applies to be beneficial mutations.

Just a very cursory glance at reality should be sufficient to support that.

How many different forms of locomotion have appeared over history in living creatures?

How many variations just in means of flight?

How about different eye designs?

Or maybe variations on digestive systems?

How many variations on sexual identity are there and what about species that change sex at will?

What about biological things that are both male and female at the same time?

The error throughout this whole excursion into probabilities seems to be the old canard of a desired outcome with no evidence there is such a thing.


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Message 148 of 393 (792551)
10-11-2016 11:08 AM
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10-11-2016 11:04 AM


Re: This seems like a good place...
Back in Message 92 I tried to point out his issues with his lottery examples.

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Message 181 of 393 (792596)
10-11-2016 9:06 PM
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10-11-2016 9:04 PM


Re: Kleinman's argument
AZPaul3 writes:

Any pigeon will give you that.

As well as scales and feathers too.


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Message 386 of 393 (792922)
10-15-2016 11:42 AM


135 Content free posts
This topic shows conclusively that it is possible to have 135 Content Free posts in one thread with zero evidence of the point asserted evolving.

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