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Author Topic:   Hypocrisy Among American Fundamentalists
ringo
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Message 8 of 122 (777120)
01-26-2016 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by GDR
01-25-2016 2:23 PM


GDR writes:
On the matter of asking forgiveness for sinshardly an obscure Christian doctrineTrump says he’s never done it. I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right, he said recently. I don't bring God into that picture.
Damn it! You made me agree with Donald Trump.

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ringo
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Message 30 of 122 (777274)
01-28-2016 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by NoNukes
01-27-2016 4:20 PM


Re: The Bias in Our Votes
NoNukes writes:
It is not as though one candidate is the anti-Christ.
I'm still pretty sure Ronald Reagan is the anti-Christ. I'm just waiting for him to rise from the dead. I wonder if the Twenty-second Amendment applies to zombies.

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ringo
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Message 43 of 122 (777486)
02-02-2016 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Hyroglyphx
02-01-2016 8:28 PM


Re: Politics before Christianity
Hyroglyphx writes:
So then there's nothing wrong with Rev. Jeremiah Wright or Reverend Al Sharpton or Rev. Jesse Jackson using the pulpit to push a political agenda?
That would depend on whether or not their political agenda aligns with Jesus' teaching. I have no problem with preachers suggesting that their parishioners "should" vote for candidates who support feeding the hungry, healing the sick, etc.

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ringo
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Message 66 of 122 (777546)
02-03-2016 2:27 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Hyroglyphx
02-03-2016 1:31 AM


Re: Politics before Christianity
Hyroglyphx writes:
Admonish them to vote their conscience without offering any specific endorsements.
It's a pastor's job to tell his congregation how their consciences tally with what God wants them to do. The point of religion is largely to adjust people's consciences.
Hyroglyphx writes:
Case in point, I don't equate a candidate who supports socialism to necessarily be doing that on behalf of the poor.
That's a pretty poor case in point. I said, "candidates who support feeding the hungry, healing the sick, etc." not candidates who support socialism.
Hyroglyphx writes:
If Jesus said feed and clothe the poor, to me that means actually go out there and directly feed them and clothe them. Cut out the middle man
I disagree. If we're paying the taxes anyway, we should be electing middle men who are going to use the money according to our consciences.

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ringo
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Message 84 of 122 (777611)
02-04-2016 11:27 AM
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02-04-2016 1:37 AM


Re: Politics before Christianity
Hyroglyphx writes:
Do you feel like you've done your moral obligation by simply allowing the government to withhold your wages (as if you had any choice in the matter) or is it better to actually donate of your own volition and going directly to the source of the problem?
I'm saying that it isn't enough to just donate of your own volition. In a democracy, we have a moral obligation to speak up about where our taxes go. I, for one, would rather see my taxes go toward feeding homeless people instead of toward policing them off the street.

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ringo
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Message 85 of 122 (777613)
02-04-2016 11:32 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by ICANT
02-04-2016 1:49 AM


Re: Politics before Christianity
ICANT writes:
Can you point out a time that religion was abusive that it was not a part of the government?
Today. Much of the abuse of gay people is religion-based.

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