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Author Topic:   Hypocrisy Among American Fundamentalists
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Message 42 of 122 (777484)
02-02-2016 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by Hyroglyphx
02-01-2016 4:08 AM


Re: Politics before Christianity
I find politicking in churches to particularly disgusting and completely inappropriate.
It's not up to me to tell a religion what it should preach.
However, preachers are typically paid by tax-deductible donations. So, as a taxpayer, I am subsidizing them to do politicking against my interests.
Eliminate the tax benefits to religion, and then it won't bother me what politicking they do.
Sure, I might still think that they are bogus Christians. But, as long as my taxes don't subsidize them, that's not of great concern to me.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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Message 67 of 122 (777560)
02-03-2016 4:58 PM
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02-03-2016 1:26 AM


Re: Politics before Christianity
However, any goods or services offered should be taxed. So if a church opens up a coffee shop for-profit, they should be taxed like any other business enterprise. But I don't think they ought to be taxed for tithes since they are essentially donations.
What about a Church group that won't sell you a book. But they will give you a book for $21 donation. I see that as blatant tax cheating.

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Message 96 of 122 (777637)
02-04-2016 8:39 PM
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02-04-2016 1:38 AM


Re: Politics before Christianity
Can you expound?
Religious broadcasters often offer a book for a donation (and often that's a donation of a specific amount). They are clearly hinting that you can deduct what you pay for the book as a charitable donation.

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Message 101 of 122 (777644)
02-04-2016 11:06 PM
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02-04-2016 10:39 PM


Re: Politics before Christianity
I often listen to a specific radio ministry which offers a free CD, DVD, or book for a donation in any amount. At the end of the year they send me a statement which totals my contributions and also the fair market value of what I have received, and reports the difference to me as the amount I may deduct from my taxes.
If they actually do that, then I see that as okay.

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