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Straggler Member Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined:
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Focusing on your male/female muscle example.
Do you think being politically correct requires denial of the fact that men typically have higher muscle mass than women? I very much doubt you will find anyone here who would deny that fact and yet there are many people here (myself probably included) who you label as 'politically correct'. How do you reconcile that? I think you don't really understand political correctness and that you are railing against a straw man. The 'politically correct' don't deny that men have greater muscle mass than women, they just object to the notion that this is any reason at all to deem women as inferior to men generally. Anyway - As you almost certainly have lower muscle mass than I do I suggest you leave this discussion to the big boys and don't worry your pretty little head about such matters.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Why would you think I'd tnink everybody who has a PC opinion has ALL PC opinions? Nevertheless oddly enough I encountered that physical therapist who gave me a tongue lashing for saying something quite reasonable, I don't remember what, about the difference between male and female strength.
How about you go read the article about PC I consider to be the classic definition: The Origins of Political Correctness I know about PC because I encounter it all the time, especially here, and I know its origins from that article, besides which I spent a lot of time in the sixties among people who read all that Cultural Marxist stuff and piled it on anyone who disagreed, so I do know PC. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Straggler Member Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined:
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The last line of my post was intentionally 'politically incorrect'. It took the fact about differences in male and female physiology that you cited and made the gigantic leap from that to the notion that you, as a female, therefore have little of worth to add to this discussion because you are obviously inferior.
Challenging and avoiding these sorts of leaps, stereotypes and assumptions being used to make value judgements is what political correctness means to me. It's nothing to do with denying facts. Your characterisation and your link are just cliched recitals of the pejorative use of the term which completely miss the entire point of why it is people might advocate 'political correctness'. You may well disagree with political correctness for all sorts of valid reasons. But making out its a Marxist plot is just silly.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
YOu don't need PC to counter the type of thinking you expressed in your last line. PC is not just an opinion, it's a Marxist propaganda tool and it's a tyrannical totalitarian propaganda tool. The opinions belittling women are one reason such thinking took over, yes, but that doesn't change the fact that the cure is far worse than the disease. Have you read any of the Marxist feminist tomes? Try it some time. I believe there were good reasons for feminism in its day because I experienced the denigration of women myself, of course. But Marxist feminism is NOT the desirable solution.
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Straggler Member Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined:
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Paranoid and persecuted, believing that hidden and insidious forces are weaving their sinister web at every turn.....
I believe that 'rationally-challenged' is the PC term for that.
Faith writes: You don't need PC to counter the type of thinking you expressed in your last line You may not need PC to counter that sort of thinking. But it is that sort of value judgement laden thinking that PC is attempting to counter.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
How very PC of you, to call me paranoid and persecuted for providing the facts about PC. You don't want to know the truth so that's that.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
YOu don't need PC to counter the type of thinking you expressed in your last line. PC is not just an opinion, it's a Marxist propaganda tool and it's a tyrannical totalitarian propaganda tool. Are you suggesting that people who use Political Correctness are getting this out of some manifesto or communist playbook? Political correctness is generally nonsense, I would agree, but your words read like some hysterical, delusional, tinfoil hat-wearing conspiracy straight out of the mouths of McCarthyists. "Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
And how very PC of YOU.
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Anything that disagrees with Faith and suggests the positions and beliefs Faith holds are wrong.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The evidence is all on the thread for anybody with half a brain cell and the good will to follow the argument.
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: The evidence is all on the thread for anybody with half a brain cell and the good will to follow the argument. If you have actually presented any evidence or really anything except unsupported assertion and innuendo you should be able to provide links to those posts.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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Faith writes: The evidence is all on the thread for anybody with half a brain cell and the good will to follow the argument. I've got half a brain so I'm still waiting for you to tell me why the woman talking about muscles reacted in a PC way.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Straggler Member Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined:
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But I never claimed to be politically correct....
I suspect you would accuse me of such. But I don't think I'd meet your own paranoid-laden definition of being politically correct based on it being some Marxist ploy to control you. I hold no such desire and am not part of such a ploy. I dispute the truth of what you call "the truth". If I am at all "politically correct" then my 'political correctness' is based upon the recognition that language is a powerful tool and the desire to see value laden assumptions, generalisations and stereotypes (of the sort I purposefully engaged in with regard to your male-physiology example) being challenged and taken to task. Nothing to do with a Marxist plot. You can continue down the path of a Marxist plot if you wish (I have no doubt you will do so based on your history) but it remains a nonsense.
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
So you want us to park all but half a brain cell at the door?
The evidence is all on the thread for anybody with half a brain cell and the good will to follow the argument.
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8
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Faith writes: The evidence is all on the thread for anybody with half a brain cell and the good will to follow the argument. The problem with the kind of fact-free accusations that you frequently employ is that they're impossible to rebut without sinking to your level. --Percy
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