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Message 98 of 478 (781003)
03-29-2016 6:22 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by petrophysics1
03-29-2016 5:01 PM


Fuck the environment - Full speed ahead
I agree with at least one of your points - re: fracking vs water disposal injection in the earthquake situation.
But...
The price of gasoline was $1.45 a gallon in 1981..........my brother bought gas the other day in Denver for $1.29. That's the difference between the free market and the shit you sell.
And what you're selling is "Fuck the environment, we got cheap gasoline!".
That is part of the larger "Fuck the environment, there's money to be made."
Moose

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

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Message 104 of 478 (781019)
03-30-2016 1:10 AM


Former Spokeswoman Spills the Beans on Trump
Back in the precursor topic I had a message with the subtitle:
Andrew Dice Clay + lots of money = Donald Trump
In which I said:
Doing the most epic stand-up comedy tour ever.
Moose
Now there is the matter of this message's subtitle.
Source:
Former Spokeswoman Spills the Beans on Trump
Which, in turn, references An Open Letter to Trump Voters from His Top Strategist-Turned-Defector
Quoting from the Ed Brayton extract (note ellipses that were included there):
quote:
quote:
Almost a year ago, recruited for my public relations and public policy expertise, I sat in Trump Tower being told that the goal was to get The Donald to poll in double digits and come in second in delegate count. That was it.
The Trump camp would have been satisfied to see him polling at 12% and taking second place to a candidate who might hold 50%. His candidacy was a protest candidacy
It wasn’t long before every day I awoke to a buzzing phone and a shaking head because Trump had said something politically incorrect the night before. I have been around politics long enough to know that the other side will pounce on any and every opportunity to smear a candidate.
But something surprising and absolutely unexpected happened. Every other candidate misestimated the anger and outrage of the silent majority of Americans who are not a part of the liberal elite. So with each statement came a jump in the polls. Just when I thought we were finished, The Donald gained more popularity.

More at the source, and even more at the source's source.
Anyway, I now see the punchline for the "most epic stand-up comedy tour ever":
The Donald passes the number of delegates needed to be nominated. His victory speech:
"You've got to be kidding! I hereby withdraw from running for the Republican nomination for President of the United States, and endorse Hillary Clinton as my choice for that position."
Or is the withdrawal going to happen April 1st?
Either way, it's going to be YOOGE!
Moose

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

  
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Message 144 of 478 (781123)
04-01-2016 12:34 AM
Reply to: Message 143 by vimesey
03-31-2016 11:42 PM


Re: Hillary and Iraq?
Fair points - although the degree of complicity in the decision would need to be established, and I don't know that there is any precedent for holding accountable a member of a democratic legislature who voted to endorse the decision of the executive.
Perhaps getting into splitting hairs, but I don't think the vote was in support of the Bush administration decision to attack Iraq. The vote was to authorize the Bush administration to attack Iraq, IF a proper justification existed. It turns out that the justification was a lie. But launching the war rests on the Bush administration.
Still, Hillary and others did place way too much trust in the decision making of the Bush administration. Kudos to Bernie for not having that trust.
IIRC, the George H. W. Bush position was that it would be stupid to invade Iraq and get involved in an urban war.
quote:
President George H. W. Bush nominated Cheney for the office of Secretary of Defense immediately after the U.S. Senate failed to confirm John Tower for that position.[46] The senate confirmed Cheney by a vote of 92 to 0[46] and he served in that office from March 1989 to January 1993.
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Operation Desert Storm (17 January 1991 — 28 February 1991) in its combat phase, was a war in the Persian Gulf region waged by United States-led coalition forces from 34 nations against Ba'athist Iraq in response to Iraq's invasion and annexation of Kuwait.
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It would seem that George the first was controlling Dick Cheney then, rather than the more recent Cheney controlling of George the later.
Moose

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