The four characteristics of the Christian Church are:
1. one - one body and one spirit 2. holy - on purpose from God 3. catholic - universal and complete 4. apostolic - originated from Jesus' apostles
quote:While specific doctrines, based on both tradition and different interpretations of the Bible, distinguish one Church or denomination from another, largely explaining why there are so many different ones, the Four Marks, when defined the same way, represent a summary of what historically have been considered the most important affirmations of the Christian faith.
The whole intent of the creed is to claim the true god and the way to heaven through it. I'm not interested in the bible here - just the creed.
Not really. It was an ecumenical council, which means there were multiple groups with different beliefs participating. The intent was to get down to the basic important stuff that everyone found agreeable rather than outline the one true way that things should be.
And for most of the history all four of those characteristics were not in evidence. First there was the Holy Roman Empire that was neither Holy or Roman and one body and one spirit as long as Charlemagne was alive but then various Italian bodies and spirits until Otto was crowned.
By 1054 the first of the Great Schisms led to the creation of the Roman Catholic Church and the Greek Orthodox Church with all ties between the two severed.
Then there was the Avignon Papacies when the Throne of Peter and papacy were in Avignon instead of Rome. That lasted for seven popes IIRC.
Then there was the Western Schism when the College of Cardinals elected multiple simultaneous Popes with three different men all claiming to be the legitimate pope.
And then came the Reformation and Henry.
And onward and upward to the thousands of bodies today.
As I understand it, the belief statement in the creed is claiming that all of that falls under one umbrella of "The Christian ChurchTM", or something like that.
In fact today the vast majority of Christian sects are not Apostolic but rather claim the legitimacy of being "called".
I still laugh at one protestant in particular responding to me pointing out that Jesus said that Peter would be the rock of his church, and that the church today descends from that through apostolic succession, with claiming that the Bible was really talking about Peter's faith as being the rock of the church and the apostolic succession had nothing to do with being a true christian today.
I don't remember exactly, but that's where I bowed out. Seems anything can be spun to fit that narrative.