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Phat
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Message 2 of 95 (780916)
03-27-2016 3:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jon
03-27-2016 3:29 PM


Left Right Left
I never knew there were such as thing as a Fascist Left.
I was always taught that the ideological "right" were fascists in the extreme whereas the ideological left were communist/socialists in the extreme.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain

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Message 34 of 95 (781241)
04-02-2016 3:05 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Jon
04-02-2016 1:40 PM


Re: Reasons Matter
Jon writes:
Libraries throw books away all the time - they get worn, aren't read often, need the space, etc. Nobody much cares when they do it as part of their usual business goings on.
But there is understandably a certain amount of discomfort felt by more liberal minds upon finding out that a library may have thrown away a book because of the 'message' it contains.
Would you call it "censoring content"?

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain

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Message 35 of 95 (781242)
04-02-2016 3:19 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by ringo
04-02-2016 1:05 PM


Re: Reasons Matter
ringo writes:
You can't put an end to a symbol by burning it.
In the old Testament, folk were often commanded to smash their detestable idols. Perhaps ISIS feels as if all of these American symbols are idols. Then again, they probably feel as if we worship money and football...so they may well target banks and stadiums.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain

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Phat
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Message 47 of 95 (781463)
04-04-2016 3:27 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by 1.61803
04-04-2016 2:25 PM


Re: Reasons Matter
When I went to High School, I attended South High School in Denver, Colorado. The school symbol at the time was Johnny Reb.
Those interested may read this article about what happened since I graduated in 1977. Denver’s South High sends Johnny Reb packing, picks new mascot

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain

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Phat
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Message 49 of 95 (781499)
04-04-2016 8:14 PM
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04-04-2016 7:38 PM


Grand Old Flags
are you perhaps suggesting that in a free society people should have the right to publicly fly whatever flag they want? If so, the argument than becomes what flags are allowed on the statehouse. Personally, if for whatever reason I liked swastikas, for example...and decided to fly one on my front lawn, I would expect a reaction from at least one of the neighbors.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain

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Message 79 of 95 (781754)
04-07-2016 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 75 by anglagard
04-07-2016 2:10 AM


Re: Reasons Matter
this forum is a great place to hash it out. I respect your post and your character in general, anglagard. You have always impressed me with your honesty and in this post you impressed me with your bluntness. Free speech lives! Long may it reign! As long as there are forums such as EvC...where we can be unafraid to argue and present our ideas and beliefs to one another...America is hardly in any danger of becoming fascist.
anglagard writes:
I have defended you in the past despite your fuzzy thinking. I feel I have a deeper understanding of who you used to be because of our many chat sessions back when that was more active. I know you used to be better than your recent posts. This is the last time I cut you slack.
Now, I don't recognize the old Jon.
I do. He just got knocked out of the ring,but I see him stirring a bit. Climb back in, Lad and be honest with us.
I know you better than anybody else at EvC and I know you get bored and like to argue certain things.. but I really think you need to climb back in the ring and give anglagard an honest and thoughtful response. The peanut gallery awaits...
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Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain

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