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Message 20 of 95 (780948)
03-28-2016 3:16 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Modulous
03-28-2016 2:38 PM


I must admit I am surprised that statue was resurrected. You sure Putin isn't planning a European tour?
For the record the Confederate idolatry in this country has long been a dog whistle for racism imo.
The University of Texas removed a statue of Jefferson Davis to a museum last August. Let Davis live out his days in a dark museum instead of being glorified in the outdoors for all to see. Let his confederate fanboys seek him out there among other museum relics of our past.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 46 of 95 (781423)
04-04-2016 2:25 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Hyroglyphx
04-04-2016 2:11 AM


Re: Reasons Matter
Hello Hyroglyphx,
quote:
The Confederacy and its flag is a monument to a way of life that included corsets and sweet tea and Southern Belle's, and Southern gentleman, and of favoring states rights above unionism... And while I personally could care less because I don't identify as a Southerner, I can see why some are a little irritated that the negative aspects of the flag, such as slavery, is usurping all of the other innocuous things symbolic to it.
As you clearly state this is your opinion.
I however do not fully agree. My take is the Rebel flag is it is a extremely polarizing symbol.
It is not imo, a monument to a way of life in the south. But was the rebel yell of the hatred of Yankees and Blacks and anyone who was not on board.
The South contained Slaves and Owners. However the Rebel flag has never been representative of the African Americans of the South, even though their story is just as much a part of southern culture as the Slave owning gentry. In fact many slaves fought under that Confederate battle flag. Either through being coerced or voluntary. However that flag was and is and will always carry with it the stain of slavery just like the swastika will always be reviled as the symbol of the holocaust and the evil that was the third Reich.
Many people who fly that flag do so out of ignorance, many others out of strictly being provocative. In other words the assholes who do not have the first clue and will have the stars and bars tatooed on their chest with things like the "Souths gonna do it Again."
So in that regard it is not racist, but.....
white supremacist do not see anything wrong with the confederate flag or the swastika, and in fact celebrate them. There is a reason for that and it is not because it is a "monument to the southern way of life' that included sweet tea and southern belles and corsets. It is because they want to identify themselves as racist and what better way to say it than with symbols from a time that disregarded the freedom and life of those victimized and oppressed.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 77 of 95 (781746)
04-07-2016 10:28 AM
Reply to: Message 75 by anglagard
04-07-2016 2:10 AM


Re: Reasons Matter
quote:
Mein Kampf
Protocols of Zion
Naked Lunch
Electric Kool Aid Acid Test
The Turner Diaries
The Necronomicon
The Satanic Bible
All the works of Hunter S. Thompson and C. Cargassian Boyle (the latter in response to a classroom content challenge by some nut on behalf of his dual-credit (HS and college) daughter.
A few others I have forgotten.
Nice variety. Now just add some John Waters films and we will be cookin!

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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