Vaping?

Vaping has really helped me get away from the more harmful forms of nicotine delivery. I have recently purchased a sub-ohm set up, and love the results. Better taste and better overall experience. Yes, I do go with the tank and high VG juices that produce the big clouds, but I don't do it for that. It's a bit like a Bluetooth headset that your really like, but hate to be seen in public with because it makes you look like a douchebag. The higher VG juices are less harsh and much more enjoyable for me. I can also go with lower nicotine levels with the sub ohm tanks, but it probably evens out with the larger volume of vapor.If you are currently using a vape pen and are thinking of going with the more expensive systems, I would strongly suggest you give it a try. They do go through way more e juice, but I am currently looking into do-it-yourself e juices that can save a ton of money.However, the best advice anyone can give us is to quit altogether, but if you are going to feed the addiction . . .

For me, it's both. There is absolutely nothing enjoyable from craving nicotine. At the same time, there is a very enjoyable buzz from an initial spike in nicotine levels, especially after a good meal or other extracurricular activities. Somewhere between that spike in nic levels and nic cravings is the feeling of being normal.I have quit and restarted multiple times now. The best way I can explain it is missing an old girlfriend that everyone else says is bad for you. Even after I had fought through the physical withdrawl, which, in my case, was much more intense and long lasting than what you describe, I still ended up starting again because I really liked it.Is that a personality flaw or weakness that I should be ashamed of? Perhaps. At some point I just reached the age where I stopped caring as much what others may think, and I just enjoy my flaws.

I finally got that book so I know what it says. Basically he believes that all the physical symptoms are mostly in the smoker's head, that there is a physical addiction to the nicotine but that it's really not very strong and it leaves your system completely in three days, so that any sense of craving after that is purely psychological. He had been a three-to-five-pack a day smoker himself and after years of off and on struggle to quit one day just completely wanted to quit and did. He spends the book addressing the psychology of smoking, "why you really smoke" not why you think you do, so that by the time you've finished reading it you genuinely have no desire left to smoke and only anticipate a happy freedom. That's what makes stopping "easy," you aren't fighting yourself any more, you aren't fighting a craving because there is no craving there.People I know who have quit cold turkey and never missed it seem to have arrived at that same frame of mind spontaneously. My brother is one. He smoked for a few years and one day just took a look at it and wondered why on earth he was doing something he really didn't like and made him feel so rotten and that was the end of it, never looked back.My experience after twenty-seven years was similar. I had finally come to the point that I WANTED to quit without any of the residual desire for it that had made the other time I quit such a struggle. In my case it wasn't the bad experience or my health as it was for my brother, I was just sick of being the only smoker in a group of Christians, having to go outside to smoke alone, sick of the sense of slavery to it, sick of spending money on an addiction, and a whole collection of reasons of that sort. There wasn't one shred of desire to smoke left. For a few days I forcibly ejected any passing thought of smoking so fast it didn't have a chance to take root and after a week I had nothing but the great great relief of being free of it. It didn't take long before I didn't even have to eject the thought of it, it was just gone gone gone. I thought I'd struggle with missing the habitual pattern of smoking, the act of it, I didn't at all, strange but true. I thought I'd want a cigarette at the usual times, after eating, during a conversation, in a group etc., but I didn't, strange but true. Once I wanted to quit with all my willpower, then there wasn't any part of me that still wanted to smoke, there wasn't any willpower struggle of any sort at all, nothing to fight.The book is different in some ways from what I expected, but I still think its point is to create that frame of mind in the reader so there is no desire to smoke left. You don't miss the old girlfriend at all. You KNOW she was bad for you and you're just relieved she's gone.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

He may believe that, but that is just his personal experience. As the old saying goes, your mileage may vary. Some people are going to experience the physical withdrawal more acutely than others.

My fault, I shouldn't take any of his stuff out of context. It's the whole presentation that works, not just this or that principle he makes use of. But it isn't "just his personal experience," the guy's method has an amazing record of helping millions to stop smoking, either through his clinics or his books.ABE: I'd found the book online for free and put the URL here, but reading it now I see the copyright message forbids its use in this way and I don't see any statement rescinding it, so I'm removing the link. Sorry about that. /abeTo AZP: Sorry if I hijacked your thread, but it looks like there aren't many vapers anyway.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

No problem, Luv. Mi hilo es su hilo.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.