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Davidjay 
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Message 173 of 186 (810309)
05-27-2017 6:39 PM


Faith in science wins, faith in facts and the real world even if unseen, whether micro or macro wins.

Faith and Science are not two different entities as suggested by this topic or TITLE. Its a poorly worded title and irrational and illogical topic title.

Evolutionists faith in their bones and imaginations is as bad as church peoples faith in something they have never tested out or tried.

True faith and true science is when you try and test out theories and find out if they work.

Mystery solved...


Evolutionists are brainless whoosies, gutless and cowards.
They are not scientists, but religionists that choose to deny facts and truths of science. Intelligence and design always defeats their lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is a losers doctrine, simply because they are either lazy or dishonest.

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Message 175 of 186 (810347)
05-28-2017 9:16 AM
Reply to: Message 174 by Tanypteryx
05-28-2017 12:37 AM


Creationism is logical and scientific
No irony at all. Its consistent and logical.

The Lord of ALL created all, and as the Creator created all science and all laws. He didnt just create biology, but all sciences and math, physics, chemistry etc.... all things and all laws binding them together. All as in ALL.

(SEE thread on Laws did not evolve)

The more you study in science the more you see the intelligent design of what was created.

The more you see and read and know the more FAITH you get in facts and correspondances and the reral world as well as the unseen scientific world.

Logical and rational.


Evolutionists are brainless whoosies, gutless and cowards.
They are not scientists, but religionists that choose to deny facts and truths of science. Intelligence and design always defeats their lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is a losers doctrine, simply because they are either lazy or dishonest.

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Davidjay 
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Message 178 of 186 (810414)
05-29-2017 10:50 AM
Reply to: Message 176 by ringo
05-28-2017 2:29 PM


So how do you test creationism?

Ringo, we have been over this many times in many other threads.

Evolution has not been tested and can not be tested, and has no factual evidence. Creation is, and the facts of science, observation, geology, history, biology, chemistry, and the laws of nature or the laws of the Universe prove it.

Similiarly as previously written, the spiritual world can be tested and proven scientifically, as well as the existence of spiritual beings like Jesus.

Must I rewrite everything for you.

No wonder I started a website with 1300 articles so I wouldnt have to rewrite everything for every Ringo that came along.

SEE other threads HERE...


Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.

Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,


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Davidjay 
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Message 182 of 186 (811037)
06-04-2017 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Thugpreacha
04-08-2016 9:00 AM


Answering your questions Phat
In this topic, I want to again bring up some basic questions regarding the difference between faith and science.

•What constitutes valid evidence? (In regards to both Faith & Belief and Science Forums) Is valid evidence the same for both science and faith?

•Must Faith have evidence?
We know that science requires evidence.

Phat as a scientist and creationist, I like to answer questions rather than duck and hode from them like evolutionists do.

So allow me to answer your queries and sometimes false assumptions HEREIN. If that is allowed and if it wont be censored.

To start with, you separating FAITH and SCIENCE is a false assumption on your part, SCIENCE and FAITH (if you mean Christianity) does not have to be separate, as the Creator would obviously have known science as He created all things, so your opening assumption is rather vaque, as well as the obvious contradiction that Faith in evolution also makes your label of FAITH rather misleading as evolutionists have FAITH in their evolution doctrine.

Anyway, lets not get stuck on your opening assumption but go to discussing it or rejecting it.

•What constitutes valid evidence? (In regards to both Faith & Belief and Science Forums) Is valid evidence the same for both science and faith?

Answer Yes, the same.... test and prove things for yourself. Faith in Jesus is proveable, mentally, rationally and of course personally by EXPERIENCE. The same as His SCIENCE

(PS Evolution can not be tested and has no proofs... color change and inbreeding do not count as proofs as mentioned earlier)

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•Must Faith have evidence?
We know that science requires evidence.

Answer absolutely Yes, you have to test Jesus, test out his principles and see if they work.

test, test, test...

same as with His Science.. no difference.

The more you test and experience, the more FAITH you get and step by step you get stronger and wiser and more intelligent and spiritual.

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•Faith is often personal. Should people of faith be allowed to get angry when their beliefs are challenged? How should creationists defend their faith and still represent science?
Is It Science, please

Answer, Yes both sides should not get angry and censor and delete and ban... they should not get angry and frustrated.

Evolutionists should be able to stand behind thier theory and explain it without getting angry. But as can be seen, they do.... because they are not used to answering questions, and so attack personally, the mesenger rather than the message.

Its just science and facts, and yet because of their shallow understanding or their religious faith in their evolutionary theory they get quite upset. Dont you agree,

Therefore they ask the overseers to ban and limit the opposition so that it doesnt cast doubt on their theory.

http://www.evcforum.net/dm.php?control=page&t=12055&mpp=1...

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.

Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,


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