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Diomedes
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Message 14 of 1482 (782445)
04-23-2016 12:10 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by ICANT
04-23-2016 2:28 AM


Genesis 1:1 Does not say the heaven and the earth were created at the same moment. It just says they were created in the beginning.

So where is the problem?

The earth we live on today had to have many growing events during it's duration in existence to get to the size it is now with all the buried materials to form the fossil fuels that are in the earth.

If you look at the first few versus of Genesis, you can see that it is inconsistent with the scientific views:

quote:
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. 3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.

It specifically states that both the earth along with it's water surface was created in a realm of 'darkness'; subsequent to that, light came into being.

That is totally backwards from the scientific view of how the universe formed. There was no constituent matter: i.e. 'earth' (dirt) or water (H2O) at the beginning of the universe prior to light manifesting. The first 'light' was the result of the fusion reaction of stars as hydrogen fused to form helium. Additionally, the heavier elements that comprise the earth are the by-product of stars going through their life-cycle and dying.

So in essence, light had to exist prior to the earth. The bible states the reverse.


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Diomedes
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Message 31 of 1482 (782478)
04-24-2016 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by ICANT
04-23-2016 8:59 PM


But the light period the heavens and the earth began to exist in took place prior to Genesis 1:2 according to the text.

What exactly is a 'light period'? I think you are making up phrases that sound scientific to try to pigeon hole the bible statements into something that is tap dancing around what the original meaning actually was. Light period, light year. Kind of easy to see the attempt there.

Genesis 1:20 when God created a great fish.
Genesis 1:27 when God created mankind, male and female.

ICANT, I just quoted to you the verse specifically stating that 'In the beginning, god CREATED the heavens and the earth. The word 'created' is right there.

Here is the link I referenced which indicates this came from a King James Bible version:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1&ve...

Did you by chance write your own bible or something? Because the versus you quote are totally inconsistent with any documentation I find on the internet regarding the Genesis myth.

You as most posters around here have a weird concept of what the Bible actually says. Everyone seems to be stuck on the concept that the YEC'S put forth.

Try reading the actual text.

See previous statement. I think my reading comprehension skills are just fine. The reason I can come to a specific conclusion regarding what I am reading is because I am not trying to re-invent what the text I am reading actually says in a vain attempt to try to correlate it with current scientific theory.


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