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Thugpreacha Member Posts: 13381 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
and then we have the other son in Canada...
![]() Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
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ringo Member Posts: 17671 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Your story doesn't address Tanypteryx's point at all.
And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Thugpreacha Member Posts: 13381 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Tanypteryx has a valid point in regards to science. My analogy was meant to show what I believe the motive is for ICANT even arguing. His aim is not to reinvent science. His aim is to convince you that God is the one exception to the rule that there is no absolute truth. You, of course, will continue to argue.
![]() Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
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Thugpreacha Member Posts: 13381 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Your basic argument:
God cannot be proven using science. God is a matter of Faith. Whether God exists regardless of our faith may be proven at some point in the future. Or we may die never knowing. jar thinks we may know after we die. Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
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ringo Member Posts: 17671 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
That can't be right. He has used examples that have nothing to do with God. I think it's plain that he just doesn't understand what absolute means. And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member Posts: 17671 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Well, of course not. I wouldn't waste a word trying to convince him that water is wet. But hopefully somebody else will see how foolish his ideas are. And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Thugpreacha Member Posts: 13381 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
![]() Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
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ringo Member Posts: 17671 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
It's a consensus. And you're shooting yourself in the foot, deviating again from God being the only absolute truth. And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Thugpreacha Member Posts: 13381 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
No. I am concurring that God is the only necessary absolute truth. All else is consensus.
Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain " ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
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ringo Member Posts: 17671 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
In what way is God "necessary"? And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ICANT Member Posts: 6269 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.4
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Hi Paul
Sounds like you believe that statement to be an absolute truth. God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6269 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.4 |
Hi Dr.
I think that would be kind of hard as I have not had a drink since 1962.
He said he looked up and saw 2 moons. Well I informed everyone there is 181 in our solar system which is many more than 2. Did you know there was 181 in our solar system? God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2027 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
or so you think
so you ignored the context of his statement and just spouted out some information with no thought to continuing the discussion.
I didn't know the exact number but I knew there were lots. I also knew want he meant by his statement and didn't try to ignore his argument. It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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ICANT Member Posts: 6269 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.4 |
Hi Tanypteryx
And most of that knowledge has had to be discarded because no one was looking for the truth.
There has been billions wasted because what was promoted as real science had to be discarded as junk science.
Not when we are 21 trillion dollars in debt. If the other world goverments decided to set up their own monetery system and dump the dollar as the world currency we would be bankrupt. Because they would not have to use dollars to do business with each other. That would mean we could not print dollars to do business with them. God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 2332 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 7.0 |
That's a bit vague. I suspect it's bullshit.
And more vague bullshit.
Sounds like you're ready to line some more billionaire pockets to fix things. So, how come your god hasn't vanquished the evil scientists yet? What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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