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Author Topic:   Brexit - Should they stay or should they go?
Theodoric
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Message 35 of 837 (786181)
06-18-2016 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by Big_Al35
06-17-2016 3:14 AM


The Crown Corporation of London which is a conglomerate is not accountable to the EU. In fact, like the Vatican in Rome and Washington DC, it governs itself above super-states like the EU or the United States.

Nope.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Theodoric
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Message 53 of 837 (786350)
06-20-2016 3:27 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by LamarkNewAge
06-20-2016 3:10 PM


Re: Lets look at a unified Korea.
No, your mistake is thinking that GDP per capita has anything to do with per capita income.

GNP per capita would be a less flawed measurement. Using GDP does not help your argument.
http://www.diffen.com/difference/GDP_vs_GNP


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Theodoric
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Message 72 of 837 (786472)
06-22-2016 10:44 AM
Reply to: Message 71 by Tangle
06-22-2016 2:45 AM


Re: Remember the main issue driving "Leave" or Brexit.
So you support leaving the EU?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Theodoric
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Message 85 of 837 (786556)
06-23-2016 9:23 AM
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06-23-2016 9:02 AM


Re: Predictions
And the EU is responsible for those changes?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Theodoric
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Message 88 of 837 (786576)
06-23-2016 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by LamarkNewAge
06-23-2016 2:34 PM


reports on referendum
There will be no reporting until polls are closed.

What can the BBC report?

* Uncontroversial factual accounts such as the appearance of politicians and others at polling stations or the weather.

* The practicalities such as when the polls are open, the wording of the question and expectations of when the result may be known are allowed.

* The BBC’s online sites will not have to remove archived reports.

What can’t the BBC report?

* The BBC stops short of actually encouraging people to vote.

* While the polls are open, it is a criminal offence for anyone, not just broadcasters, to publish anything about the way in which people have voted in the referendum, where that is based on information given by voters after they have voted.

* The BBC can’t report anything emerging from exit polls (which, by definition, are asking people how they actually voted), although the broadcasters have not commissioned any exit polls for the referendum.

* No opinion poll on any issue relating to the referendum can be published by broadcasters until after the polls have closed.

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-36570120

H/T to PZ
http://freethoughtblogs.com/...3/can-we-get-these-rules-here


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Theodoric
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Message 135 of 837 (786981)
06-30-2016 10:36 AM
Reply to: Message 134 by Diomedes
06-30-2016 9:32 AM


Re: Boris isn't running to be PM
Why would he want to be PM while Britain burns(figuratively not literally)?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Theodoric
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Message 577 of 837 (850619)
04-11-2019 10:06 AM
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04-02-2019 12:25 PM


Re: Jonathan Pie on Brexit
Substitute trump for brexit and the rant almost fits for the US.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 647 of 837 (854421)
06-08-2019 3:36 PM
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06-08-2019 3:14 PM


Re: Brexit Party begins its disintegration
"institutionalized racism within the whole of the party."

Kind of like the GOP here in the USA.
If anyone claims otherwise all you have to do is mention Thomas Hofeller.
https://www.nytimes.com/...olina-gerrymander-republican.html

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 713 of 837 (859755)
08-02-2019 6:17 PM


Jonathan Pie nails it again


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


  
Theodoric
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Message 729 of 837 (862267)
09-03-2019 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 728 by Diomedes
09-03-2019 9:19 AM


Re: Brexit Showdown
Things just got a bit more tricky for Boris.

quote:
Boris Johnson has seen his one-vote Commons majority vanish before his eyes, as a statement by the prime minister to parliament was undermined by the very public defection of the Conservative MP Phillip Lee to the Liberal Democrats.
The stunt, in which the pro-remain Bracknell MP walked across the chamber to the Lib Dem benches flanked by two of his new colleagues, happened as Johnson updated the Commons on last month’s G7 summit, a statement devoted mainly to Brexit.


https://www.theguardian.com/...government-without-a-majority

Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 833 of 837 (871262)
01-30-2020 4:09 PM
Reply to: Message 832 by Diomedes
01-30-2020 9:28 AM


Re: European Parliament backs terms of UK exit
The UK is screwed. Best thing Scotland can do is leave the UK and join EU.

I venture to guess the UK is going to be Kansas on steroids.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Theodoric
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Message 835 of 837 (871264)
01-30-2020 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 834 by caffeine
01-30-2020 4:49 PM


Scotland and the UK
Scotland was on the verge of leaving not too long ago. The UK economy is going to take a major hit. Do you not think that part of the reason for Brexit is protectionism? Protectionism is going hurt the UK drastically. There is very little upside and a whole lot of downside to Brexit. It is a the UK version of russian influenced trumpism. Scotland has the ability to leave the UK. The short term difficulties with this may be outweighed in the long term by breaking from the UK economy that is shortly going to be circling down the toilet.

Because it differs from Kansas by having a GDP and a population an order of magnitude higher, and a totally different regulatory structure, economic base and political situation?

Those are the reasons it is going to be Kansas on steroids. The majority of MP's and brits seem to have drunk the anti-regulatory, low tax, social programs be damned koolaid. Johnson made lot of promises about social programs and the NHS in order to attract the Labour vote. donnie dumpsterfire did a lot of the same to get elected here. We see how well that worked for that constituency.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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