Brexit - Should they stay or should they go?

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Cameron thought that by promising a referendum he'd steal their thunder

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Yes, before he got elected the first time he promised that he'd call a referendum on the EU on condition that he'd get elected for the second time.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

To me, personally, as non-British; the Brits can do whatever you want to. Those guys are really not that important anymore. Their time is gone.

I hear what you say, Tangle, but also realise that if California became an independent country today, they would be the seventh largest economy in the world. And they would still carry on having more cultural influence overseas than the Brits do. The Kardashians and Arnie and all that. And also be a nuclear power. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

I can't see how a Brexit vote will affect the huge investment I made years ago in a coastal property in Northern Queensland, Australia. Climate change will be a much more relevant variable to consider.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

Thanks for the info.Their children voted to remain in Britain at the last referendum a year or two ago. It's so different now, isn't it?Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

To me it also seems inevitable that some part of the UK (England) will leave the EU eventually.Northern Ireland will join the rest of Ireland in the EU...what will happen to Scotland and Wales I don't know.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

As another ignorant person on UK politics, I tried to find out what Theresa's policies on science would be.Couldn't find much information anywhere except for a few reports on her wanting to send foreign students back to where they came from immediately after graduating. This would include some of the top student scientists in the world being sent away immediately after obtaining that paper officially declaring them to be 'scientists'.Not a good policy for the UK. Also not a good policy for those students as the research facilities in their home countries are not always up to standard.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

Then tighten up on fake universities. Not students.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

Not really. Fake universities are still operating all over the UK. With their fake students, too.

Sorry, Tangle. I got a bit carried away. I'm not doubting you. I don't know much about British politics.My experience with the UK system is that my wife got her PhD in Inorganic Chemistry (specialising in some funny mineral containing REE's) from a well-known British Uni and had to leave the UK the day after the graduating ceremony...It worked out very well for us, though.For most of her fellow 'students' getting PhD's in the natural sciences at the same ceremony (granted, they were only 9), it didn't work out very well, though. Research funding and lab equipment and everything associated with that not available...Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

My wife got her PhD there in 1989. From Exeter University. She had to leave the next day.So, it's not so recently.I think that it's bad for the UK and the rest of the world. Luckily for her she had an SA passport where mining companies could provide funding and labs and wonderful equipment to carry on with research.It would have been so much better for the UK and her to have been allowed to keep on studying those minerals containing REE's from Cornwall where those strange minerals are found. In the UK.Have you ever seen the faces of customs officers and the inside of police cells around cargo at Heathrow or at OR Tambo going mad about those tons of radioactive rocks being exported or imported? My wife did.Nowadays the Chinese Government officials through Chinese companies control those REE's.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

More or less similar (well, except for Zimbabweans. They walk across the border and it seems like the locals are starting to hack them to death).Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

Not really. Maybe the problem is that the UK Government fails to distinguish between people who are actually very specialised in what they do and people who go to the UK doing some course in 'English language' as a second language and then overstay their visas. The current UK Govt (and those who came before them for decades) tend and tended to evaluate those different types of graduates as all being the same.Maybe the UK out of the EU should consider something like the OZ point system, with major tweaks involved. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

Maybe it's better for people living in Wrocław (the old Breslau) being part of the EU without Britain than being part of the EU with Britain?Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

That's something I experienced in Sydney. Immigrants from Ethiopia and Zim did the refuge removals, as the locals and other immigrants from places such as India see it as below their status.The locals just didn't have enough grown children to be able to effectively take all their rubbish away every week at the minimum wage.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.