I hear what you say, Tangle, but also realise that if California became an independent country today, they would be the seventh largest economy in the world. And they would still carry on having more cultural influence overseas than the Brits do. The Kardashians and Arnie and all that. And also be a nuclear power.
I can't see how a Brexit vote will affect the huge investment I made years ago in a coastal property in Northern Queensland, Australia. Climate change will be a much more relevant variable to consider.
As another ignorant person on UK politics, I tried to find out what Theresa's policies on science would be.
Couldn't find much information anywhere except for a few reports on her wanting to send foreign students back to where they came from immediately after graduating. This would include some of the top student scientists in the world being sent away immediately after obtaining that paper officially declaring them to be 'scientists'.
Not a good policy for the UK. Also not a good policy for those students as the research facilities in their home countries are not always up to standard.
She's not anti-science or scientist - or anti-student. But we did have a problem with foreign 'students' coming here to 'study' at fake universities and never going home. She had to tighten up on that. It's just a visa thing really.
Then tighten up on fake universities. Not students.
Sorry, Tangle. I got a bit carried away. I'm not doubting you. I don't know much about British politics.
My experience with the UK system is that my wife got her PhD in Inorganic Chemistry (specialising in some funny mineral containing REE's) from a well-known British Uni and had to leave the UK the day after the graduating ceremony...It worked out very well for us, though.
For most of her fellow 'students' getting PhD's in the natural sciences at the same ceremony (granted, they were only 9), it didn't work out very well, though. Research funding and lab equipment and everything associated with that not available...
Studying here doesn't give you rights to remain after - that's always been the case, it's just that it's only fairly recently begun being really enforced.
My wife got her PhD there in 1989. From Exeter University. She had to leave the next day.
So, it's not so recently.
I think that it's bad for the UK and the rest of the world. Luckily for her she had an SA passport where mining companies could provide funding and labs and wonderful equipment to carry on with research.
It would have been so much better for the UK and her to have been allowed to keep on studying those minerals containing REE's from Cornwall where those strange minerals are found. In the UK.
Have you ever seen the faces of customs officers and the inside of police cells around cargo at Heathrow or at OR Tambo going mad about those tons of radioactive rocks being exported or imported? My wife did.
Nowadays the Chinese Government officials through Chinese companies control those REE's.
That doesn't seem to correlate to Pressie's experience. But in any case, curtailing that right is reasonable if you feel that immigration has become a problem.
Not really. Maybe the problem is that the UK Government fails to distinguish between people who are actually very specialised in what they do and people who go to the UK doing some course in 'English language' as a second language and then overstay their visas. The current UK Govt (and those who came before them for decades) tend and tended to evaluate those different types of graduates as all being the same.
Maybe the UK out of the EU should consider something like the OZ point system, with major tweaks involved.
Re: Recession, inflation, and (no shock) quantitative easing schemes happening as we type
That is something I wish many of my fellow citizens here in the US would understand. Not only do immigrants grow the economy, they also help to stabilize social programs for the elderly baby boomers. When you have more pensioners than workers it won't be pretty
That's something I experienced in Sydney. Immigrants from Ethiopia and Zim did the refuge removals, as the locals and other immigrants from places such as India see it as below their status.
The locals just didn't have enough grown children to be able to effectively take all their rubbish away every week at the minimum wage.