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Author | Topic: Brexit - Should they stay or should they go? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Tangle Member Posts: 9486 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.6 |
I'd take 51:49.
It doesn't matter what result is, millions of people will be pissed off for a generation whatever happens. This is what happens when our elected representatives shirk their job.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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ringo Member (Idle past 402 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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AZPaul3 writes:
I can't speak for the UK but in Canada we prefer ineffective governments. A politician who breaks his promises is by far preferable to one who keeps stupid promises. ... do you guys not collapse ineffective governments anymore either?And our geese will blot out the sun.
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1014 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined:
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I can't speak for the UK but in Canada we prefer ineffective governments. A politician who breaks his promises is by far preferable to one who keeps stupid promises. Whenever there's a debate about voting reform in the UK, one of the arguments people use to defend the first-past-the-post system is that it increases the chance of parties getting a significant parliamentary majority (even without a significant majority of votes), and thus means they can effectively implement their policy programme. I still haven't figured out why that's supposed to be a positive.
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Diomedes Member Posts: 995 From: Central Florida, USA Joined: |
quote: Brexit votes: MPs fail to back proposals again - BBC News Well, that's progress of a sorts. I guess. On the upside, at least there are a few options that are close to gaining some majority.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8493 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
So is this "crashout " April 12th realistic?
Come on Queen. Put an end to this. Cut her head off. Say "NO!" Is there any comment on the matter from Buckingham Palace? Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9486 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.6 |
AZP writes: Come on Queen. Put an end to this. If Parliament instructed the government to do something it didn't want to, Teresa could ask the Queen to strike it off - not sure how that works but apparently it's constitutional.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1014 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: |
You need to get over this weird obsession with the Queen. It's 2019. No solution lies in that direction.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8493 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
I know that. She has the constitutional power but it is socially unacceptable for her to use them.
No solution lies in that direction. There appears to be none in Parliament either. Just imagine the spectacle of Her Majesty strolling into the Palace of Westminster with a hundred Royal Guards and announcing "This Parliament is dissolved." Wondrous.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Diomedes Member Posts: 995 From: Central Florida, USA Joined:
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Haven't heard of this UK comedian before, but he is quite funny. A good rant.
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1014 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: |
She has the constitutional power but it is socially unacceptable for her to use them. It's not about social acceptability - she does not have the constitutional powers you think she has. The Queen's authority to dissolve Parliament was formally abolished by the Fixed-term Parliaments Act (2011). She does have the theoretical power to dismiss May, but not to dissolve Parliament.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8493 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
I stand corrected. Too bad.
Can she at least take her carriage and display a prominent finger at Westminster as she rolls by?Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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Diomedes Member Posts: 995 From: Central Florida, USA Joined: |
quote: Brexit: PM asks Corbyn to help break deadlock - BBC News It looks like May might have finally caved to the Customs Union. That option had the strongest support among indicative votes. So maybe she realizes that is the only way forward. It is annoying the strident Brexiteers. But since it has the best chance of solving the Irish border problem, if she can get the moderate conservatives, Labour and the DUP to jump on board, that may be enough to get her plan across the finish line.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8493 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
EU: Sure. Take a couple years. We're not the ones going. We'll be right here. Let us know when you're ready. In the mean time, everything's cool. No problem you guys voting in our election. After all, y'aint left yet. You're still one of us. Kisses.
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ringo Member (Idle past 402 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
I'm sitting at a computer terminal in a public library in the middle of nowhere - a.k.a. Canada. Somebody left a Zwei Euro Cent coin on the table. It's similar to a Canadian 1 Cent coin, which no longer exists. For me, this is the most interesting thing that has happened in the history of the EU.
And our geese will blot out the sun.
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1014 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: |
Which logo do you have on the obverse?
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