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Author Topic:   Brexit - Should they stay or should they go?
ringo
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Message 571 of 577 (850240)
04-04-2019 11:52 AM
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04-04-2019 3:42 AM


caffeine writes:

Which logo do you have on the obverse?


I didn't keep it but as I recall (and looking it up in Wikipedia) it was probably the Austrian version with an edelweiss.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 572 of 577 (850242)
04-04-2019 12:51 PM
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04-04-2019 11:52 AM


I didn't keep it but as I recall (and looking it up in Wikipedia) it was probably the Austrian version with an edelweiss.

I like the ones that make you guess where it's from. Some are really dull. ie:

Just in case you didn't recognise the weird stylised profile, we're gonna bung the Queen's name and the name of the country on in big letters. Where's the fun?

Others make the country name a little less obvious:

but once you've learnt that the RI logo is Republicca Italiana there's no more fun.

Austria's are some of my favourites - much more subtle. They all incorporate a flag design but it doesn't always leap at you without colour. They sometimes use heads, and then you're struggling to think what the Grand Duke of Luxembourg looks like before you realise that it's a famous historical figure from Austria.

Finland makes some of my favourites though:



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Diomedes
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Message 573 of 577 (850278)
04-05-2019 9:45 AM


UK asks EU for another extension until June 30
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Theresa May has written to the European Union to request a further delay to Brexit until 30 June.

The UK is currently due to leave the EU on 12 April and, as yet, no withdrawal deal has been approved by MPs.

The prime minister has proposed that if UK MPs approve a deal in time, the UK should be able to leave before European Parliamentary elections on 23 May.

But she said the UK would prepare to field candidates in those elections in case no agreement is reached.

It is up to the EU whether to grant an extension to Article 50, the legal process through which the UK is leaving the EU, after MPs repeatedly rejected the withdrawal agreement reached between the UK and the bloc.


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47825841

Not sure how this will play out. Donald Tusk is apparently urging for a longer extension with a provision to leave earlier if needed. It seems to me that May is still playing the same game: trying to run down the clock to the point where her deal is the only option left.

Interestingly, there will also be no more indicative votes on alternatives for Brexit. They voted on whether they should continue doing indicative votes and it ended with a tie in parliament: 310-310. The speaker then broke the tie and voted with the noes.

So as it stands, May is now meeting with Corbyn to see if they can hash out some compromise to her deal, which likely means having a customs union as part of the solution. This more or less solves the Irish border problem and would negate the need for the backstop. Hardline Brexiteers obviously don't like it because it keeps the UK too closely aligned with the EU. But it appears to be the only way forward.


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caffeine
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Message 574 of 577 (850290)
04-05-2019 12:53 PM
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04-05-2019 9:45 AM


Re: UK asks EU for another extension until June 30
Interestingly, there will also be no more indicative votes on alternatives for Brexit. They voted on whether they should continue doing indicative votes and it ended with a tie in parliament: 310-310. The speaker then broke the tie and voted with the noes.

Fun fact - this is the first tie in the Commons since 1993. That tie (317-317) was a vote on the Maastricht Treaty!

The EU really is a topic that seems to divide people.


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PaulK
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Message 575 of 577 (850291)
04-05-2019 1:07 PM
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04-05-2019 9:45 AM


Re: UK asks EU for another extension until June 30
Keir Starmer - Labour’s Brexit guy - reports that the Government ministers aren’t offering any changes. Which pretty much sinks any chance of a cross party deal.
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Diomedes
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Message 576 of 577 (850616)
04-11-2019 9:01 AM


Brexit deadline moved to October 31st
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European Union leaders have granted the UK a six-month extension to Brexit, after late-night talks in Brussels.

The new deadline - 31 October - averts the prospect of the UK having to leave the EU without a deal on Friday, as MPs are still deadlocked over a deal.

European Council President Donald Tusk said his "message to British friends" was "please do not waste this time".

Theresa May, who had wanted a shorter delay, said the UK would still aim to leave the EU as soon as possible.

The UK must now hold European elections in May, or leave on 1 June without a deal.

The prime minister will later make a statement on the Brussels summit to the House of Commons, while talks with the Labour Party, aimed at reaching consensus on how to handle Brexit, are set to continue.


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47889404

I wonder if there is any symbolism in the fact that the new deadline is Halloween.


  
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Message 577 of 577 (850619)
04-11-2019 10:06 AM
Reply to: Message 564 by Diomedes
04-02-2019 12:25 PM


Re: Jonathan Pie on Brexit
Substitute trump for brexit and the rant almost fits for the US.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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