So what is the likelihood that a vote of no confidence in the government can still occur? Do MPs have enough time to do that before parliament is suspended? I think there is a few days in September that could still allow them to do that. If the vote is successful, does that have the possibility of negating the suspension of parliament?
quote:Is it legal to suspend Parliament? Yes. It's what normally happens between the end of one session and the beginning of the next. However, the circumstances are unusual.
A legal challenge would be difficult, since the government isn't breaking any law. It's just using parliamentary procedure, as Mr Johnson tries to fulfil his campaign promise to get the UK out of the EU.
MPs could either go along with the suspension, with the risk of a no-deal Brexit, or they could trigger an election with a vote of no confidence in the government.
quote:What happens next? Good question.
Parliament will go back to work next Tuesday 3 September, but will then go into recess.
If Mr Johnson gets his way, Parliament returns on 14 October, two-and-a-half weeks before the UK leaves the EU.
However, if MPs pass a vote of no-confidence before 10 September, there could be a general election in October.
quote:If there's an election, will Brexit still happen? That depends. If the Conservatives win, then yes. They're ahead in the opinion polls, at about 31% last week, after Mr Johnson took over from the previous Prime Minister, Theresa May, in July.
The main opposition Labour Party is trailing by 10 to 12 points, on about 21%. Labour is divided between traditional working-class areas, which tend to support Brexit, and voters in cities like London who are more in favour of remaining in the EU.
But a Conservative win is not necessarily in the bag. Other parties, including the centre-left Liberal Democrats and the Scottish Nationalists, are all staunchly opposed to Brexit on any terms.
Incidentally, the Sterling just took a hit as well. Wonder where it might end up after all this is done.
quote:The PM faces a showdown in Parliament later as MPs aim to take control of the agenda to stop a no-deal Brexit.
Ex-chancellor and Tory rebel Philip Hammond said he thought there was enough support for the bill, seeking to delay the UK's exit date, to pass.
No 10 officials warned the prime minister would push for an election on 14 October if the government lost.
Boris Johnson said he did not want an election, but progress with the EU would be "impossible" if MPs won.
Last ditch efforts to get the Tory rebels on side have been taking place, but BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg said the meeting between the prime minister and the group went "less than swimmingly" and was "less than cordial".
There are thought to be about 15 confirmed Tory rebels - set against the government's working majority of just one.
quote:Boris Johnson has seen his one-vote Commons majority vanish before his eyes, as a statement by the prime minister to parliament was undermined by the very public defection of the Conservative MP Phillip Lee to the Liberal Democrats. The stunt, in which the pro-remain Bracknell MP walked across the chamber to the Lib Dem benches flanked by two of his new colleagues, happened as Johnson updated the Commons on last month’s G7 summit, a statement devoted mainly to Brexit.
It looks like the rebel MPs have at least crossed the first hurdle with regards to procedure, since the House Speaker has granted them the opportunity to debate and potentially take control of the House of Common's agenda:
quote:Tory rebels and opposition MPs have cleared the first hurdle in their attempt to pass a law designed to prevent a no-deal Brexit.
Commons Speaker John Bercow granted them a debate and a vote on taking control of the Commons agenda.
If successful, they would be able to bring forward a bill seeking to delay the UK's exit date beyond 31 October.
No 10 officials have warned the prime minister will push for an election if they succeed.
What I am trying to wrap my head around is if they succeed, Johnson will likely call for an election. However, he needs a two-thirds majority for that to succeed and from what I read, he likely won't get it. So you will effectively have a Parliament who wants to delay Brexit (or outright cancel it) and a PM that doesn't want to ask for a further extension or cancel Brexit. Legislatively, I am not certain if Parliament can ask the EU for an extension on their own. I am wondering if this might turn into another round of indicative voting like before, which yielded nothing.
Also not sure how the House of Lords factors into this and whether they can approve or block certain legislative acts. Maybe the Brits on this board can chime in on that.
The plan is to pass a bill which requires the PM to ask for an extension rather than crash out with No Deal. I can see BoJo ignoring it and letting the crash out happen anyway.
That is kind of the aspect of things I really don't understand. Can he ignore it, or is he beholden to the will of Parliament in this circumstance? I honestly don't get the legislative aspect of all these shenanigans.
BTW, what does it mean that the gov't no longer "controls" Parliament? Was it just a government rubber stamp up 'til now?
i believe it means that the government no longer gets to decide what bills are to be voted on. disclaimer: not a UK person.
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