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vimesey Member (Idle past 328 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined: |
PS - my son just introduced me to some of Tim Minchin's stuff - Xmas holiday viewing sorted ! :-)
Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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Tangle Member Posts: 9581 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.5 |
He's a genius...
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1699 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Gosh, Jonathan Pie gets it. Our Leftists still don't get it. And anyone who thinks Trump is stupid doesn't get it either.
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Heathen Member (Idle past 1538 days) Posts: 1067 From: Brizzle Joined: |
Gosh, Jonathan Pie gets it. Our Leftists still don't get it. And anyone who thinks Trump is stupid doesn't get it either. Hmm you should watch some more of Jonathan Pie's videos...
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1699 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I've watched all the Jonathan Pie videos that have been posted here. It's only this one in which he gets it. He's clearly a Leftist, a raging Leftist so I'm surprised to find he can actually recognize where the Leftists went wrong in treating their opponents as idiots. Most Leftists aren't capable of that level of perspicacity.
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Diomedes Member Posts: 998 From: Central Florida, USA Joined: |
quote: Brexit: MPs back Boris Johnson's plan to leave EU on 31 January - BBC News No surprise considering the Conservative majority.
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Diomedes Member Posts: 998 From: Central Florida, USA Joined: |
quote: Brexit: European Parliament overwhelmingly backs terms of UK's exit - BBC News Appears the stage is now set and the UK will officially leave the EU on Friday, January 31st. It's been quite the ride to get here and there are still details of trade agreements that need to be made. But the exit is now certain. Will be interesting to see how this affects both the UK and EU in the coming years.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.1 |
The UK is screwed. Best thing Scotland can do is leave the UK and join EU.
I venture to guess the UK is going to be Kansas on steroids.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1279 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: |
The UK is screwed. Best thing Scotland can do is leave the UK and join EU. No, because most of Scotland's business is with England. That would be silly.
I venture to guess the UK is going to be Kansas on steroids. Because it differs from Kansas by having a GDP and a population an order of magnitude higher, and a totally different regulatory structure, economic base and political situation? So not so much, 'Kansas on steroids' as 'nothing at all like Kansas'.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 6.1 |
Scotland was on the verge of leaving not too long ago. The UK economy is going to take a major hit. Do you not think that part of the reason for Brexit is protectionism? Protectionism is going hurt the UK drastically. There is very little upside and a whole lot of downside to Brexit. It is a the UK version of russian influenced trumpism. Scotland has the ability to leave the UK. The short term difficulties with this may be outweighed in the long term by breaking from the UK economy that is shortly going to be circling down the toilet.
Because it differs from Kansas by having a GDP and a population an order of magnitude higher, and a totally different regulatory structure, economic base and political situation?
Those are the reasons it is going to be Kansas on steroids. The majority of MP's and brits seem to have drunk the anti-regulatory, low tax, social programs be damned koolaid. Johnson made lot of promises about social programs and the NHS in order to attract the Labour vote. donnie dumpsterfire did a lot of the same to get elected here. We see how well that worked for that constituency.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Tangle Member Posts: 9581 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.5 |
Only three problems with that
1. It's probable that the Scots still don't want to leave the Uk2. The Scots need the consent of Parliament to become independent. Boris has already formally refused on the basis that they voted against it in a referendum and this Parliament will never agree. 3. The Scottish economy is a joke - it has a deficit of over 10% - it's subsidised by England. The EU won't allow a new member unless its deficit is under 3% quote: Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Diomedes Member Posts: 998 From: Central Florida, USA Joined: |
Regardless of the referendum result, I am grateful that Brexit introduced me to Jonathan Pie.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
OK, now I am getting concerned.
Not only the covid stuff but now all this fish talk that has Scotland talking about leaving the UK to rejoin the EU? I've watched some of the comments on the net and, though I don't believe much eGossipTM, I get the sense a real fracture, created by brexit, is about to get nasty. You guys all right over there?Factio Republicana delenda est.
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vimesey Member (Idle past 328 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined:
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It’s gonna be crap for a while.
We stand a chance of Scotland going their own way - and our economy is going to tank. But hey, the racists, manipulated by a few billionaires who are going to make a fortune shorting sterling, will feel that we’ve got our country back. All summed up by something I heard a supermarket checkout operator say to a customer, just before the vote: well, I don’t really understand any of the arguments, but I’m voting leave to keep the foreigners out. Ignorance - democracy’s biggest inherent weakness.Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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Tangle Member Posts: 9581 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.5 |
quote: Ignorance plus social media = perfect imperfection.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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