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Author Topic:   The Great Creationist Fossil Failure
ThinAirDesigns
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Message 275 of 1163 (787355)
07-11-2016 6:24 AM


Hubris
'I don't understand it. I don't feel the need to understand it. I think it's silly that you think I should study and understand it before I analyse and render a verdict. But, rest assured that from my position of little knowledge I can promise you that the data is being fudged.'

Sound almost exactly like the position of one George McReady Price when Harold Clark, one of his prized students got off his ass and went to the field to compare what Price said against the evidence. Clark wrote back :

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The rocks do lie in a much more definite sequence than we have ever allowed. The statements made in your book, The New Geology, do not harmonize with the conditions in the field. All over the Midwest the rocks lie in great sheets extending over hundreds of miles, in regular order. Thousands of well cores prove this. In East Texas alone are 25,000 deep wells. Probably well over 100,000 wells in the Midwest give data that has been studied and correlated. The science has become a very exact one. Millions of dollars are spent in drilling, with the paleontological findings of the company geologists taken as the basis for the work. The sequence of the microscopic fossils in the strata is remarkably uniform. The same sequence is found in America, Europe, and anywhere that detailed studies have been made. This oil geology has opened up the depths of the earth in a way that we never dreamed of twenty years ago.

The report was that Price was 'enraged'.

JB


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ThinAirDesigns
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Message 281 of 1163 (787365)
07-11-2016 9:34 AM


State of mind
Faith, the point of the Clark quote was not to compare any technical position you may or may not hold similar to Price, but to illustrate the commonality between the two states of mind.

Price was an 'arm chair' geologist (actually, not a geologist at all as opposed to his fancy) who liked to talk a lot but didn't really think it was necessary for him to learn if it meant things turned out different than his ignorance held them to be.

JB


  
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Message 300 of 1163 (787433)
07-13-2016 5:17 PM
Reply to: Message 299 by JonF
07-13-2016 9:13 AM


Soon. Very soon.

JB


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ThinAirDesigns
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Message 316 of 1163 (787457)
07-14-2016 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 276 by Pressie
07-11-2016 6:29 AM


Re: Hubris
Sorry -- missed this question.

Price is considered by many to be the father of modern deluge geology. Without Price, Faith would most likely not exist (as a participant here).

JB

Edited by ThinAirDesigns, : No reason given.


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Message 328 of 1163 (787478)
07-15-2016 9:34 AM
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07-15-2016 8:57 AM


Re: Hubris
Yep -- contrary to the assertion that deluge geology is "obvious", it was on it's way out for the exact opposite reasons and was salvaged only when a fraud of a 'prophet' (Ellen G. White) sold her visions to the gullible.

Deluge geology requires one to conclude first ('the bible contains the literal truth') and then begin the rationalization process. Without Ellen G White and Price and Morris and Ham, this shit would be vastly more fringe than it is now.

JB


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