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Author Topic:   The Great Creationist Fossil Failure
Pressie
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Message 171 of 1163 (786894)
06-29-2016 1:00 AM
Reply to: Message 153 by mike the wiz
06-27-2016 4:18 PM


mike the wiz writes:

Your argument is that if a flood happened today, you should be found in the same strata as your friend who lives 2,000 miles away from you.

Actually, in a very high energy environment with one big, violent flood, covering the whole world, such as proposed by those floodists (you know, continents speeding around the globe at the speed of light, oceans full of water coming up from below the surface and meters of rain falling from above every second and covering the whole world in water), of course the remains of me and my friend will be found in the same strata.

In a scenario such as that, I would expect my ripped and shredded remains, together with ripped and shredded remains of my friend who lived 2 000 miles away, together with ripped and shredded remains of vegetation and various other life forms to be deposited in the same mega-conglomerate. This conglomerate would cover the place where I lived and also the place 2 000 miles away where my friend lived.

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Pressie
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Message 172 of 1163 (786896)
06-29-2016 1:35 AM
Reply to: Message 169 by edge
06-28-2016 3:29 PM


It seems as if mike the wiz thinks that the Cambrian is a 'rock layer', the Ordovician is a 'rock layer', the Silurian is a 'rock layer', etc.

I guess mike can't personally be blamed for it as he gets his geological 'knowledge' from Jan Peczkis. Now, that guy can be blamed for telling untruths about the natural science we call Geology while he knows his herd will follow him blindly.


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Pressie
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Message 192 of 1163 (786961)
06-30-2016 1:07 AM
Reply to: Message 174 by mike the wiz
06-29-2016 12:28 PM


mike the wiz writes:

Well, technically speaking what do you define them as? Do you define them as, "eras", because if you do, you should know that they don't come with evolutionary tags on them.

They are time periods.

I know that you won't ever get this in your head, but the Cambrian is not a 'rock layer'. The Ordovician is not a 'rock layer'. The Silurian is not a 'rock layer'. Etc.

They are not rocks.

The individual fossil sequences were at first mainly recognized and named in Europe. Geologists and paleontologists then went all over the world and studied outcrops to determine whether or not the fossils occurred in the same sequence elsewhere in the world as in Europe.

Nearly all (except two, the Paleocene and Ordovician) of the main subdivisions were named and studied before evolutionary theory came around in 1859.

The geologic time scale was thus named and ordered before and independent of evolutionary theory and radiometric dating.

Jan Peczkis didn't tell you the truth about what he calls "The Geological Column". They are not rock layers. They are time periods. And time periods don't have depth below surface or thickness of rocks or rate of deposition or anything like that.


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Pressie
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Message 193 of 1163 (786965)
06-30-2016 6:51 AM
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06-29-2016 12:28 PM


Oh, I'll quickly answer your question without an explanation. Anything but 'rock layers'.

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Pressie
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Message 195 of 1163 (786968)
06-30-2016 7:24 AM
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06-30-2016 7:15 AM


I see that you still don't know what the Cambrian is. You still don't know what the Ordovician is. You still don't know what the Silurian is, etc.

Mike, they are not 'rock layers' at all.


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Pressie
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Message 203 of 1163 (787016)
07-01-2016 7:51 AM
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06-30-2016 7:15 AM


Hey, mike the wiz, I was banned from that forum years ago. For no reason at all. How do you expect me to talk to you over there?

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Pressie
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Message 206 of 1163 (787021)
07-01-2016 8:24 AM
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07-01-2016 7:53 AM


There was a reason... You didn't convert.
Yeah, I never converted to YECism on that forum.

They never gave cohesive reasons for banning me. They just banned me. No reason at all. Something about me 'going to burn forever when I die and they don't want to be affected'. That was it.

Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.


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Pressie
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Message 208 of 1163 (787026)
07-01-2016 8:59 AM
Reply to: Message 206 by Pressie
07-01-2016 8:24 AM


mike the wiz, you still don't want to answer me on geological periods not being 'rock layers'. Take your time, mike the wiz. I've read most of the nonsense written by creationists about geology. Every single one of them told lots and lots of untruths about everything.

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Pressie
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Message 209 of 1163 (787027)
07-01-2016 9:01 AM
Reply to: Message 207 by JonF
07-01-2016 8:43 AM


That must have been a blast. He actually is very entertaining.

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Pressie
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Message 220 of 1163 (787072)
07-03-2016 8:01 AM
Reply to: Message 211 by mike the wiz
07-01-2016 4:15 PM


mike the wiz writes:

Naturally with so many posts aimed at the creationist at sites like this it can be easy to miss comments.

Well, with tens of thousands of peer-reviewed articles published in geological journals every year in lots of languages, it must be easy for you to miss the vast majority of most of them...

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Pressie
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Message 221 of 1163 (787074)
07-03-2016 8:13 AM


Oh, and mike the wiz. You still don't want to answer me on geological periods not being 'rock layers'. Take your time, mike the wiz. I've read most of the nonsense written by creationists about geology. Every single one of them told lots and lots of untruths about everything.

  
Pressie
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Message 222 of 1163 (787076)
07-03-2016 8:18 AM
Reply to: Message 211 by mike the wiz
07-01-2016 4:15 PM


mike the wiz writes:

I would say the geological periods, are a neurotic-agreement.

Really? How exactly?

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Pressie
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Message 223 of 1163 (787077)
07-03-2016 8:23 AM
Reply to: Message 211 by mike the wiz
07-01-2016 4:15 PM


This one is funny.

mike the wiz writes:

Please tell me you are not going to INFLATE such a minor error to now constantly make some kind of ad-hominem allusion

So, you agree that the Cambrian is not a 'rock layer'?

I mean, the reference you posted here pretended that "The Geological Column" represented "layers".

You call it a 'minor error'? It's major. Creationists never tell the truth, mike.

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Pressie
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Message 224 of 1163 (787078)
07-03-2016 8:41 AM
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07-01-2016 4:15 PM


This one really is funny

mike te wiz writes:

Think about it - that is why an ad-hominem argument exists, as diversions.

Pointing out an untruth is not an ad hominem. We're not all as stupid as your sheep, mike.

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Pressie
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Message 227 of 1163 (787083)
07-03-2016 9:22 AM
Reply to: Message 226 by mike the wiz
07-03-2016 9:20 AM


I agree that it is of no consequence.
You're completely crazy, then. The Cambrian being a Period, not a 'rock layer', is of huge consequence.

Creationists always lie. Always.

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