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Author Topic:   The Great Creationist Fossil Failure
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Message 523 of 1163 (787983)
07-24-2016 3:25 PM
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07-24-2016 2:34 PM


Re: From rock slabs to epeiric seas, there's no room for living things
they then go on to give three plausible explanations for the degeneration.
But of course. As the creationists point out, there is no end to the plausible explanations for anything an evo's little heart desires, because it's all the kind of science that can never be proved or disproved, it's all just a tissue of subjective interpretations.

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Message 529 of 1163 (788097)
07-26-2016 4:45 AM
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07-25-2016 11:45 AM


Re: From rock slabs to epeiric seas, there's no room for living things
THE strata is of course a different thing from strata formed in a peanut butter jar.

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Message 534 of 1163 (788121)
07-26-2016 11:32 AM
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07-26-2016 9:34 AM


Re: From rock slabs to epeiric seas, there's no room for living things
They are not in peanut butter jars.

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Message 538 of 1163 (788143)
07-26-2016 1:39 PM
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07-26-2016 12:17 PM


Re: From rock slabs to epeiric seas, there's no room for living things
Sorry, there is only ONE geological column on which the Geo Timetable is based. There is only ONE kind of strata that I'm ever talking about, so no, I'm not going to stop talking about them as one particular phenomenon. Sorry.

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Message 540 of 1163 (788155)
07-26-2016 3:04 PM
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07-26-2016 2:57 PM


Re: From rock slabs to epeiric seas, there's no room for living things
The strata are quite real. That the geo column is never complete doesn't make the strata not real.

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Message 559 of 1163 (790579)
09-01-2016 9:26 AM
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09-01-2016 8:50 AM


Re: More amazing sorting
I don't get your point. You list what ISN'T in the rock. Is this to say there are NO fossils in the rocks? What are you saying and why is it so amazing to you?
ABE: Looked it up. So it's Precambrian. Few fossils as is always the case with the Precambrian. Again, what is so amazing about this?
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Message 561 of 1163 (790584)
09-01-2016 9:51 AM
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09-01-2016 9:48 AM


Re: More amazing sorting
You listed a lack of fossils in this particular area which turns out to be Precambrian, in other words the lowest rocks, in which there are normally few fossils, which ought not to be at all amazing to you. What is your point?

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Message 563 of 1163 (790586)
09-01-2016 9:55 AM
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09-01-2016 9:54 AM


Re: More amazing sorting
I'm well past being amazed by the seeming sorting of fossils.

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Message 565 of 1163 (790590)
09-01-2016 10:04 AM
Reply to: Message 564 by Boof
09-01-2016 10:01 AM


Re: More amazing sorting
You're a very sensitive soul. Exposed Precambrian rocks really get to you.

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Message 568 of 1163 (790606)
09-01-2016 1:01 PM
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09-01-2016 11:59 AM


Re: More amazing sorting
I presume that in your scenario the Precambrian would represent the "bottom" of the Flood?
The lowest layers, which it is.
If so, why are there no fossils of modern life-forms before the Flood?
Before the Flood? There shouldn't be ANY fossils from before the Flood. The idea is that the Flood did all the fossilizing.
If fossilization can occur as rapidly as creationists claim, why weren't any cows, whales, etc. fossilized in the several thousand years before the Flood? Why are there none in the Precambrian?
I assume the Precambrian is the lowest strata created by the Flood. No fossils existed before that.

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Message 571 of 1163 (790629)
09-01-2016 10:01 PM
Reply to: Message 570 by Boof
09-01-2016 8:51 PM


Re: More amazing sorting
We seem to be having one miscommunication after another.
"Lowest IN THE STRATA"* is what I meant; Precambrian rocks are at the bottom of the stratigraphic column -- if such a column exists at that location. At the location you are talking about there are only the Precambrian rocks, there are no strata above them, apparently having eroded away. The rocks at this location are exposed, even to an appreciable height it sounds like, not buried under more recent strata.
It's just a fact that wherever Precambrian rocks are found they are known to contain few fossils and particularly primitive fossils. No Precambrian rocks anywhere have fish or the other creatures you list as not being present in this location. That's because they aren't Precambrian fossils; they occur in strata above the Precambrian.
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*Geology says "oldest" not "lowest" but both are true.
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Message 573 of 1163 (790632)
09-02-2016 2:44 AM
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09-02-2016 2:37 AM


Re: More amazing sorting
I've answered it earlier in the thread: I don't know why there seems to be this apparent sorting. I suspect it's an illusion of some sort, that's all, meaning the sorting is more apparent than real. I have the usual guesses about the original location of the various creatures and their different abilities to flee the Flood, and that may explain some of it, but that's it.

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