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Author Topic:   The Geological Timescale is Fiction whose only reality is stacks of rock
ThinAirDesigns
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Message 306 of 1257 (788715)
08-04-2016 8:08 AM
Reply to: Message 299 by Faith
08-03-2016 7:07 PM


Re: Tracks in the strata
If there is one consistency within the group that hold that the 'literal' reading of the bible is the one true way and also attempt to dabble in 'scientific' explanations, it's a lack of understanding or respect or application of the "If / Then" conditional statement.

They say things and then when the downstream implications of their statements are pointed out to them they cry some version of "That's not my point" or "Strawman". The results of a conditional statement are not a strawman whether or not you thought of or like the outcome.

Someone here (Percy?) did a piece on this very thing once using the claim of a car traveling some long distance in one hour and the driver then denying the obvious results of the "IF you drove that far in that amount of time, THEN you broke the law" conclusion. "I NEVER SAID I BROKE THE LAW - YOU'RE PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH - YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, NOT ME" was the cry in response.

I know that some minds have a more natural affinity for logic than others, but I still believe that for those of us in the US at least, in our education system we are failing to get the basics across in an adequate manner.

JB


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Message 331 of 1257 (788756)
08-04-2016 11:54 AM
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08-04-2016 9:13 AM


Re: Tracks in the strata
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Dinosaurs "walking out on an unlivable place" isn't a straw man? It's a SILLY straw man.

No, it's the "THEN" logically derived from your own "IF", and demonstrates AGAIN the exact point of that post.

JB


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ThinAirDesigns
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Message 372 of 1257 (788849)
08-05-2016 5:06 PM
Reply to: Message 371 by jar
08-05-2016 3:50 PM


Re: Not miraculaous but rather common and normal
It's why Faith is a twin for George Price -- decide something is true (in this case that strata is all nice and even) and then make sure and not go out and learn that you're wrong.

JB


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ThinAirDesigns
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Message 618 of 1257 (789341)
08-13-2016 1:12 PM


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If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn’t value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?

Sam Harris
  
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