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Pressie Member (Idle past 275 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Faith writes: Isn't it some creationist hypothesis that the earth was flatter before the magic flood? I'm going to remove that cartoon because it isn't conveying what it was meant to convey,... Your cartoon represented their 'thinking'. Then you pretended that was 'scientific' thinking.Then you put up a straw man pretending that it's 'science'. No wonder you took it away. You're very dishonest, Faith.
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Pressie Member (Idle past 275 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Faith writes: There were huge, huge mountains during the Triassic in parts where South Africa is now. For example, the mountains of the Cape fold belt were a lot higher during the Triassic than they are now. We only see the remnants still around today. And they still are quite high. Second, there are no mountains in the Triassic Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member (Idle past 275 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Faith writes: It's because you have no idea what geology entails. You think that the Jurassic is a "slab" of rock. It isn't. Probably many times. I don't always get to read every post and if it doesn't make sense to me right away the less likely it is that I'll read it but go on to one I can deal with more immediately. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member (Idle past 275 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
This one is funny.
Faith writes: He-he-he. Elephants don't peer out of rocks during our own time periods and are around on the landscapes we all experience.
The cartoon of the dinosaur peering out from the strata was meant to represent my own conclusion that there couldn't have been landscapes during any time period
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Pressie Member (Idle past 275 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
You call a time period a slab of rock?
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Pressie Member (Idle past 275 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
mike the wiz writes: Which magic flood? There's absolutely no evidence for magic global floods on earth during the last 4.5 billion years. But, the evidence left from magic floods could have any magic properties, I guess.
I'm not sure who said this but it is a prime example of an untested conditional probably based on an strawman version of the flood.
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Pressie Member (Idle past 275 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined:
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Faith writes: I don't. Luckily for me I had one of the foremost Geochronologists in the world, being one of my undergraduate lecturers, explaining very patiently how he dated some of the "rocks" found in the Barberton Greenstone Belt. Over many years going through the basics from formation of "rocks", crystallography, geochemistry, metamorphisism, physics, etc, etc,
It's funny how people just take the dating system for granted... Faith writes: But, Faith, I certainly can know that. Old earth models work. Very, very well. That's why old earth models work for every single one of the exploration and mining companies in my country. Geology works. Old earth models work.
... as if you could know how old something is yourself and agree out of your own knowledge.
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Pressie Member (Idle past 275 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined:
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Faith writes: No need to wonder about it. The Permian is not a rock layer. However, there does seem to be an observable difference between the rocks deposited below the Permian and those above it, that I've wondered about. You still don't get it. The Permian is not a layer. Get it into your head. The Permian is not a layer. The Permian is not a rock layer. The Permian is not a rock layer. I know that it's not something you can try to do after all the years of indoctrination by creationists, but try to get it into your head. Here we go again. The Permian is not a rock layer. The Permian is not a rock layer. The Permian is not a rock layer.
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Pressie Member (Idle past 275 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined:
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This one was funny.
Faith writes: Like it happened at a place called Pompeii.
When a landscape gets buried... Faith writes: Except for in other places in the world. And they will move around and populate the area again. Above the old population. Just like what happened at Pompeii. And we can dig out the remains of the original population of that area later! ... the point is that anything still living would have no place to live because there is no longer a landscape to support life. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member (Idle past 275 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Faith writes: I actually live on a landscape of sediments. A landscape formed by sediments. Rivers and plains and deltas and lakes. A huge basin. With mountains and hills and flat areas formed during the Vaalian and Mokolian and Namibian and Cambrian and Permian. And now. Nothing lives on the surface of sediments, a landscape is necessary, and you are imagining such a landscape without accounting for it or facing the problems I keep raising about it. I'm really not too sure why Faith thinks I can't live on sediments. Sand and soil, hey. I'm quite happy living on sediments. So are the mielies I'm growing. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member (Idle past 275 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Faith writes: I'm really not to sure why Faith wrote this. They look different. They are different things. After all they are different layers. Easy to see. Even in photo's different strata are different layers. They even do LOOK LIKE different things. The thing is they don't LOOK LIKE different things, they simply look like strata, layers. Faith doesn't make any sense.
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Pressie Member (Idle past 275 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
I think that, after all of this, Faith still thinks that Palaeoarchaean "is a rock layer", the Mesoproterozoic "is a rock layer", the Neoproterezoic "is a rock layer", the Paleoproterozoic "is a rock layer", the Mesozoic "is a rock layer", etc. Faith got his/her information from always lying creationists who pretend that their definitions are scientific.
Faith will always believe their lies. No matter how many times their lies are pointed out.
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Pressie Member (Idle past 275 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Faith writes: Exactly. That's why only creationists pretend that geologists do it. Creationists always tell untruths. A time period is not a layer, Faith. It's very basic.
Defining a time period by layers of sediments/rocks is also nonsensical.
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Pressie Member (Idle past 275 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
This one is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
Faith writes: Oh, I dont know about that. I just "assume" that thin sections of those rocks I can study under a microscope are real... But your problem is that you assume the environments you see in the rocks are real and behave the way the world behaves today. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member (Idle past 275 days) Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Faith thinks the views of modern geology require that fossils be found in strata that do not represent where they lived. Faith is not too bright. Some fossils found today are not found in the strata where they lived. For example those fossils fossils of unicelluar organisms found in the Dwyka. They were transported in the matrix from earlier rocks and redeposited in what is the Dwyka Group now.
On a couple occasions Faith said the fossils would have to move around after burial. True. Some do. For example those unicellular fossils found in the Dwyka. That's why paleontogogists take specialist geologists on those rocks when they excavate those fossils. Some fossils, together with the surrounding matrix get deposited and buried somewhere else. Along with everything else. I'm really not too sure why Faith thinks that it is a problem for geology. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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