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ringo Member Posts: 19752 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9
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Like they failed before the Flood? Kill them all and let God sort them out?
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ringo Member Posts: 19752 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9 |
The Christian End Timers have a vested interest in circling the wagons against the world. "Bring your cash inside the circle. Don't waste it on touchy feely things like feeding the hungry. Give it to us and we'll use it for the Glory of God."
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ringo Member Posts: 19752 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9
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Matthew 25. It's what Jesus said. You don't have to say, "Lord! Lord!" That is unneeded. What is needed is to be benevolent and altruistic.
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ringo Member Posts: 19752 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9 |
I know what the fundies think. The point is that they're wrong. It's the fundies who will follow the AntiChrist while the rest of the world gets more secular. Fundies are just itching for somebody like Ronald Reagan to take us back to the "good old days". THAT is the AntiChrist, who offers the (fundy) world easy solutions to their problems.
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ringo Member Posts: 19752 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9 |
That's why I used Reagan as an example. When he rises from the dead, the prophecy will be fulfilled.
I don't think the humanists are promising a magical end to blood, sweat, toil and tears like some Christians are.
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ringo Member Posts: 19752 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9
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I changed too, when I got rid of the God baggage. I think I became a better person by taking responsibility for myself instead of using "God's will" as an excuse.
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ringo Member Posts: 19752 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9
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Conservative Christians will grasp at every straw to justify their paranoia. "The millennium" has been any minute now for more than a millennium. Two millennia from now, when Botswana is the world superpower, conservative Christians will call it a fulfillment of prophecy.
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ringo Member Posts: 19752 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9
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Conservative Christians have already embraced a fake religion. "New world religion" is a fantasy. The importance of religion is declining and the existing religions are fragmenting.
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ringo Member Posts: 19752 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9 |
Why do you keep saying that? How many times do I have to tell you it isn't true?
You have not demonstrated that your religion includes any "relationship" with God. The importance of relationship may be at an all time high - whatever that means - but do fake relationships or imagined relationships count?
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ringo Member Posts: 19752 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9 |
You tell me. You're the one who claims to have the relationship. How is your relationship with God different from my relationship with long John Silver?
Yes, we do. A traffic jam is not something that can just be ignored.
And I'm not buyin' it.
When I'm buying a car, if it won't run that's a sticking point. Yes.
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ringo Member Posts: 19752 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9 |
Not to me He doesn't. Haven't we been through this before?
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ringo Member Posts: 19752 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9 |
You admit that you're marketing a belief.
I'm not buying it because I don't believe a real God would hide. I refuse to accept your excuse that your God is hiding. If He came out of hiding I would not refuse Him.
I've told you more than once before, belief and evidence are not related. if there is evidence, you don't need belief. If there is no evidence, you're allowed to believe but one belief is as good as another.
I've seen the "results" too and many of them are bad.
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ringo Member Posts: 19752 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9 |
You claim that God responds to you. If I claimed that Long John Silver responds to me, people would call me crazy. So why shouldn't we call you equally crazy?
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ringo Member Posts: 19752 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9 |
We also know that (your) God is a fictional character. Just ask a billion Muslims. ![]()
A lot of people have a "personal relationship" with their favourite soap opera too.
I'm just saying you're not fundamentally different from me.
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ringo Member Posts: 19752 From: frozen wasteland Joined: Member Rating: 2.9 |
Correct. Evidence is evident.
Some Muslims, Christians and Jews would agree. Some wouldn't. What about the Egyptian gods or the Greek gods or the Hindu gods or the Norse gods? Don't you consider them fictional characters?
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