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Author Topic:   The 2016 United States Presidential Election
kjsimons
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Message 112 of 892 (793091)
10-20-2016 4:07 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by xongsmith
10-20-2016 3:11 PM


Re: Gerrymandering solution?
xongsmith writes:
There must be something wrong with this idea. Right?
Right, there is something wrong with this!
Representatives currently represent a geographic area, like a city or county. In many states there are rural and urban areas with different issues and wants due to this. How do you decide which representative represents your city or county under your plan?
I live in Florida and we just had a court ordered redistricting which should make our future elections fairer. We have more Democrats than Republicans in the state but more Republicans have been elected due to gerrymandered districts, one of them literally looked like a snake and ran all the way from Jacksonville to Orlando, meandering as needed to gobble up as many historically black areas as possible.
To be fair districts should follow country/city boundaries and not be snake like. In Texas, the bluest city in the state, Austin, is split between 5-6 districts so the blue gets spread out. It's so obviously gerrymandered I don't know how it's been allowed to continue.
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kjsimons
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Message 116 of 892 (793100)
10-20-2016 10:02 PM
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10-20-2016 5:27 PM


Re: Gerrymandering solution?
xongsmith writes:
You don't. You decide which Representative candidate represent yourself the most, not what is best for where you live.
I don't think you have really thought this through. Let's say you live in Austin, Texas, a totally blue city. A local blue representative could actually help you if the area wasn't gerrymandered so that there is no blue majority districts. What you suggest would allow the tyranny of the majority to continue to overrun the minority as there would be no local Representative for the area.

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kjsimons
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Message 127 of 892 (793142)
10-21-2016 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by xongsmith
10-21-2016 5:19 PM


Re: Unscientific exit poll...
I don't know about where NoNukes lives, but in Florida you can vote in any early voting site. On election day you need to go to your specified polling place though.

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kjsimons
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Message 170 of 892 (793261)
10-24-2016 5:43 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by Percy
10-24-2016 5:20 PM


Percy, that map was gotten from this site. There is another map that shows shades of purple that gives a truer picture rather than simply red or blue.
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kjsimons
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Message 421 of 892 (794300)
11-14-2016 10:23 AM
Reply to: Message 420 by Percy
11-14-2016 8:03 AM


Re: This too shall pass
Percy writes:
... insurance companies cannot exclude people for pre-existing conditions.
But this is one of most needed parts! Almost everyone gets to the point in their life when they will have a pre-existing condition and if insurance companies can exclude these people or charge them outrageous premiums, they are effectively being denied access to healthcare unless they can pay for it upfront. Now, I'm more in favor of a single payer system rather than the ACA setup, but Obama was trying to get something enacted with fixes to be made down the line later.
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