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Author Topic:   Election Rigging
NoNukes
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Message 7 of 31 (796257)
12-27-2016 2:39 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by RAZD
12-26-2016 9:26 PM


RAZD writes:
Yes there is, but you have to be willing to look for it and you have to be willing to accept that it has occurred. Most people find that latter difficult, because we like to think the US is a model government.
Over the years I've found myself buying into several conspiracy theories about things I was very passionate about, only to come to the realization that I had committed to a conclusion based on fairly skimpy evidence.
The phrase, "we like to think the US is a model government" likely applies to a very tiny minority of the folks here. The idea that voting irregularities are impossible is also something a Democrat in NC would never hold. I find it curious that you would use that phrase as well as the phrase "you have to be willing to accept that it occurred". Those two statements, for me at least, are alarm bells that raise the hair on the back of my neck.
Let me try a similar statement:
"There is plenty of evidence for Big Foot if you are willing to accept that it is real, but most of us like to think that scientific knowledge of currently living creatures is too complete to allow for a large unknown mammal".
There is evidence of very disparate results from the recounts of paper ballots to machine counts in Michigan and Minnesota. Results that were ignored by the parties in power as they stopped the recounts and certified the machine counts as correct. They obviously were not.
Make your case.

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NoNukes
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Message 22 of 31 (796404)
12-29-2016 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Modulous
12-29-2016 12:56 PM


Re: Riggers
Naturally, by not doing anything Congress would need, what is it, a 2/3 majority to get anything past your refusal to sign it into law?
If the president allows the 10 day period to expire and Congress is in session at the end of the ten days, then the bill becomes law without the president's signature. If Congress is not in session, then a 'pocket veto' happens and the bill does not become law. Obviously in that scenario, Congress cannot vote.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson
Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000

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