The implications of Evolution

Bit confused, do you intend this thread to be about the evolution (or otherwise) of homosexuality?

By 'implications' you mean that evolution has outcomes for people? Well I guess that must be true in the big picture and over a very long period of time, but we 'people' have a way of exagerating how anything affects us and drawing conclusions from insufficient evidence in order to explain things to ourselves.There's no reason why every trait we find is as a result of adaption to a survival situation - such things are extreem events. Other traits may be simple errors that have no significance. No one knows what homosexuality is all about, it occurrs in many species, it is what it is, attempting 'just so' stories for it is not scientific.

Andrew, what point are you're trying to make in this thread?Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.

So this is what you're trying to get to?Well first off, evolution isn't widely discussed outside academia and places like this. It's a scientific concept, not a branch of politics. As such it can be neither positive or negative, it's just an objective assessment of how we see life working. Not by anyone with any idea of what evolution actually is. Human behaviours are not subserviant to mindless reproduction and the ToE doesn't say that it is. We are just another animal. Get over it. The ToE has nothing to say about Gods. What it did was show that some primitive writings were incorrect when they spoke of how life developed on earth. Again, get over it. The ToE has relevance to people in that it tells us when and how we got to be what we are. How we behave now is down to us.

You seem very impressed by this - as you should be - it's a game-changing truism missed by humanity for thousands of years for lack of knowledge.But now we understand it, what's the problem? It doesn't mean that you are a mindless robot. It's a metaphor. The evidence of your own behaviour should tell you that for the most part you have control over your actions. You're capable of choices that work against this gene-driven objective of making more of itself.It's sort of a proof that the ToE is correct that it accidentally created something that has the ability to defy its objective - should it so wish.Of course, the evidence works the other way - H. Sapiens is amazingly successful, out competing all its rivals and reproducing vast quantities of genes. (Although if simple numbers of genes is the goal, there was no point going beyond bacteria and micro-organisms.)You seem totally hung up on metaphysical nonsense. What is to be gained by tilting at these windmills?