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Message 35 of 4573 (796922)
01-07-2017 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by Faith
01-07-2017 9:26 AM


Re: CRe: The Trump Wall
Faith writes:

China made good use of the concept.

Indeed. They don't seem to have an illegal Mexican immigrant problem at all, do they.


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Message 895 of 4573 (812091)
06-14-2017 5:13 PM
Reply to: Message 893 by NoNukes
06-14-2017 4:29 PM


Re: Trump's Birthday
NoNukes observes:

Happy Trump Day!!

Our president is 71 years old today.

Wave your flag!


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Message 1120 of 4573 (817613)
08-18-2017 3:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1106 by New Cat's Eye
08-17-2017 10:40 PM


Re: very fine people on both sides!?
New Cat's Eye, among many other things says:

They'd be choosing to march with me, I didn't choose to march with them.

My question is whether or not there was a reason they would want to march with you? And then thinking what reason would you have had to march with this Charlotteville group instead of against it?

But if some asshole decides to bring that flag to a march I want to participate in for different reasons, then there actually is more than one side.

But what would be your "different reason" here, in this case? Perhaps you might be talking about something else like Stopping A Pipeline?


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Message 1293 of 4573 (821400)
10-06-2017 6:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1291 by dronestar
10-06-2017 4:16 PM


Re: People who voted for Hillary were tricked, and we are all paying for it
Dronestar asks:

Are not Iraqi's paying for Hillary's criminal invasion based on lies?

wasn't that Cheney & W's invasion? Not to make too fine a point about it.


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Message 1358 of 4573 (821975)
10-16-2017 5:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1357 by Modulous
10-16-2017 5:17 PM


Re: Democrats need to stop blaming others for their loss.
Rrhain writes:

The end result is that Trump got 57% of the vote.

excuse me...didn't you mean Electoral College votes?

because from the wikipedia site we still have:

Nominee Donald Trump Hillary Clinton
Party Republican Democratic
Home state New York New York
Running mate Mike Pence Tim Kaine
Electoral vote 304[a][2] 227[a][2]
States carried 30 + ME-02 20 + DC
Popular vote 62,984,825[3] 65,853,516[3]
Percentage 46.1% 48.2%

305/538 does equal approximately 56.50558 % of the College.


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Message 1406 of 4573 (822225)
10-21-2017 7:50 AM
Reply to: Message 1404 by Modulous
10-20-2017 10:35 PM


Re: the attribution
Modulous writes in Message 1404 above, amid many things,

They are missing the information regarding which nominees will fail to get as many votes in the election from those who voted for someone else in the primaries. That is, if the person that gets plurality of votes is somehow hated by everyone else resulted in some significant proportion of 'defectors' - that information is not reflected in the results. Nor is the information that the second runner might actually pick up all the same votes as the plurality winner with the bonus of not dropping votes from defectors, should that be the situation.

See, this was the main problem with Hillary - she was so virulently HATED by so many. Regardless of whether it was justified or not (it was not), it should have been seen by the DNC as a

Huge Blinking Warning Light.


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Message 1463 of 4573 (822503)
10-26-2017 4:07 PM


GOP factoid
Since 1875 the GOP has won the POTUS electoral college 4 times while losing the popular vote. 1876, 1888, 2000 and 2016.

The Democrats have never won this way. The score is 4-0 so far.


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Message 1501 of 4573 (824481)
11-29-2017 2:30 PM
Reply to: Message 1500 by jar
11-29-2017 1:53 PM


Re: Trump retweets islamophobic videos from British Far right group
jar points out:

Actually the US is safer with him as President than we would be if he was removed from the office.

Indeed! The line of succession goes:

Pence
Ryan
Hatch

... and so on - the GOP monsters go long and deep.

I'll take incompetent evil over competent evil any time.


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Message 1633 of 4573 (826654)
01-06-2018 7:19 AM
Reply to: Message 1627 by NoNukes
01-05-2018 2:02 PM


Re: Jeff Session cranks up war on drugs.
NoNukes writes, in part:

I am not a proponent of drug use, but I'm also not in favor of the current 'war on drugs' which when coupled with the programs to privatize prisons results in very destructive and expensive policies for imprisoning US citizens. These policies also help fund the criminal element in many communities.

...and of course it is very funny how one of the biggest stockholders in privatized prisons is none other than Jeff Sessions. Criminal element, indeed.


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Message 1867 of 4573 (828180)
02-12-2018 9:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1866 by Percy
02-12-2018 6:30 PM


Re: The Irony of Trump's Obstruction of Justice
argh. you 2 are tiresome.

Isn't this on the level of:

1. all horses are animals
2. not all animals are horses

?? are you even talking about the same things?

1. all conspiracies are collusions
2. not all collusions are conspiracies


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Message 2058 of 4573 (834541)
06-08-2018 3:23 AM
Reply to: Message 2057 by NoNukes
06-07-2018 11:34 PM


Re: Trump accuses Canada of trying to burn White house in 1812
Ah, Justin Trudeau should've just said back to Trump "...I know...they said it was a dump...."

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Message 2087 of 4573 (835171)
06-18-2018 11:06 PM


Woody's updated song
Woody's Children copyright 2018 Nathan A. Smith with adaptations of Woody's song

The children are all taken and parents now handcuffed
Then piled into the buses to strip them away
Driven back down over the Mexican border
Back to the terrors they'd struggled to escape

Goodbye to my Juan, goodbye, Rosalita,
Adios mis amigos, Jesus y Maria;
You won't have a name when you sleep in the cages,
All you will have is a numbered tattoo

The mother's own mother, she'd waded that river,
Still they took all the money she'd made with her skill;
Her brothers and sisters come to flee from the danger,
But they all been sent back till they're captured and killed.

Goodbye to my Juan, goodbye, Rosalita,
Adios mis amigos, Jesus y Maria;
You won't have a name when you sleep in the cages,
All you will have is a numbered tattoo

Now some of 'em are illegal, and all are not wanted,
These families fleeing from the gang lands of grief;
Over six hundred miles from that Mexican border,
Where they're treated like outlaws, like rustlers, like thieves.

Goodbye to my Juan, goodbye, Rosalita,
Adios mis amigos, Jesus y Maria;
You won't have a name when you sleep in the cages,
All you will have is a numbered tattoo

Is this the best way we can heal our sick country?
Is this the best way? the best we can do?
To watch the authorities lock up these children
In cages with nothing but a numbered tattoo

....

Goodbye to my Juan, goodbye, Rosalita,
Adios mis amigos, Jesus y Maria;
You won't have a name when you sleep in the cages,
All you will have is a numbered tattoo

-June 18th, 2018


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Message 2099 of 4573 (835351)
06-22-2018 12:32 AM
Reply to: Message 2098 by Dogmafood
06-21-2018 9:48 PM


Re: Woody's updated song
ProtoTypical writes:
copyright 2018
You know don't get me wrong but this is a big part of the problem.

Yeah...should credit Guthrie as well and Martin Hoffman (music).

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Message 2386 of 4573 (837923)
08-10-2018 11:30 PM
Reply to: Message 2385 by LamarkNewAge
08-10-2018 8:08 PM


Re: Back in September of 2016, per capita income was projected to be $65,000+ in 2020.
I think this is misleading. Per capita doesn't show the stagnation for 99% of us. Used median income per capita - the 50% above, 50% below number. The trillionaires skew the average way up, but most people don't see it in their pockets.

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Message 2755 of 4573 (848452)
02-05-2019 4:19 PM
Reply to: Message 2753 by Tanypteryx
02-05-2019 3:49 PM


Re: guns in schools
Why don't we have the same gates they put in airports and courtrooms? No weapons get through.

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