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Taq
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Message 84 of 4573 (797066)
01-10-2017 4:20 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Faith
01-10-2017 11:35 AM


Re: Did Trump mock a disabled reporter?
Faith writes:

Is there one that particularly concerns you?

His narcissism is the basis for his foreign policy. If a world leader says nice things about Trump, he will bend over backwards to do whatever they want. Putin is a perfect example of this.

He doesn't care if he uses lies to attack people that are critical of his policies.

Today's policies are tomorrow's garbage. He thinks the best path is whatever he feels like that day.

Trump thinks women are sex objects, and little else.

Those are a few off the top of my head.


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Message 96 of 4573 (797089)
01-11-2017 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by Faith
01-11-2017 1:51 AM


Re: Did Trump mock a disabled reporter?
Faith writes:

I've heard this but have seen nothing I would describe that way.

His Twitter outrage against SNL skits is a perfect example. You never saw Obama being outraged by the same thing. Trump's recent raging fit against Meryl Streep is another good example.


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Message 98 of 4573 (797091)
01-11-2017 12:40 PM
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01-11-2017 11:44 AM


Re: Did Trump mock a disabled reporter?
Faith writes:

Interesting that your list is nothing but a list of snarky opinions that purport to read the man's mind, not a single fact.

Trumps own words:

1. Narcissism and foreign policy:

quote:
LAUER: Do you think the day that you become president of the United States, he's going to change his mind on some of these key issues?

TRUMP: Possibly. It's possible. I don't know, Matt. It's possible. And it's not going to have any impact. If he says great things about me, I'm going to say great things about him. I've already said, he is really very much of a leader. I mean, you can say, 'Oh, isn't that a terrible thing' -- the man has very strong control over a country.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/...in-chief-forum-was-bananas


2. Does he still want to throw women in prison for getting abortions? Is he still appointing a special prosecutor to go after Hilary Clinton? Is he still arresting all these criminal immigrants within the first hour of his presidency, as he stated in his speech on immigration? I could go on with hours listing his flip-flops.

3. Multiple women have come forward describing how Trump has assaulted them.

These aren't opinions. These are facts.

The only one I give a little credence to is his attitude toward women, but since I hate political correctness more than I object to sexism the credence isn't much.

Why do you hate the idea that people shouldn't be proud of saying racist, hurtful, and misogynistic things?

Edited by Taq, : No reason given.


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Message 800 of 4573 (808742)
05-12-2017 1:22 PM


I'm Not a Crook
"And in all of my years of public life, I have never obstructed justice. And I think, too, that I could say that in my years of public life, that I welcome this kind of examination, because people have got to know whether or not their president is a crook. Well, I am not a crook. I have earned everything I have got."--Richard Nixon

Nixon said this about a year before Congress impeached him, with the first charge being obstruction of justice. Hearing Nixon's words coming out of Donald Trump's mouth is beyond spooky.

Edited by Taq, : No reason given.


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Message 820 of 4573 (809170)
05-16-2017 3:56 PM
Reply to: Message 816 by Percy
05-16-2017 8:05 AM


Re: When does all the winning begin?
Percy writes:

It just doesn't end. What we have is an incompetent and autocratic White House unfamiliar with handling the reins of government.

It is a bit self serving when the party full of the incompetents is the one who says to vote for them because the government is incompetent.

For example, they will run on the idea that government is incapable of handling healthcare, so you are better off on your own. To prove themselves right, they screw up healthcare.

Until people wake up and figure out that there is only one popular political party who is trying to do good by the American people, we will continue to see incompetence in government. Apparently, there are tons of conservatives who are willing to lose affordable access to healthcare just to have an orange man yell out "Radical Islamic Terrorism" at the local tractor pull.


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Message 824 of 4573 (809183)
05-16-2017 5:35 PM
Reply to: Message 821 by NoNukes
05-16-2017 4:17 PM


Re: When does all the winning begin?
NoNukes writes:

ABE:

[1] Maybe a bigger snafu than I was thinking. Apparently, the intelligence at issue is something that one of our allies shared with us. The info was not ours to share. Still seeing lots of denial from Republicans like McConnell and Hatch.

This also speaks to a much broader problem. Just a few months ago it was reported that US intelligence organizations were holding back information from Trump because they were afraid he would just blurt it out. It seems their fears were well founded.

We have a President who has so little self control that he will out important intelligence assets and partners just to brag to our enemies of how wonderful his briefings are. This was after Putin called Trump and asked him to meet with his foreign secretary and ambassador, about which Trump stated that he couldn't say no to Putin.

So we have a weak President who can't say no to Putin, and then blurts out random pieces of sensitive intelligence because he can't help himself. Buckle up folks, it's going to get bumpy.


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Message 830 of 4573 (809281)
05-17-2017 5:50 PM
Reply to: Message 829 by marc9000
05-17-2017 5:28 PM


Re: What Republicans say: then and now
marc9000 writes:

Here are the two Washington Post headlines, for the same actions;

[June 30th, 2016, for Obama] "U.S. offers to share Syria intelligence on terrorists with Russia."

[May 15th, 2017, for Trump]"Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian diplomats."

A lot of people are keeping score of news media bias.

What bias?

The information that Trump shared was not his to give. Israel gave us that information with the promise that we wouldn't tell other people. That's a much different situation than sharing information that we haven't promised to keep secret.


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Message 833 of 4573 (809287)
05-17-2017 6:01 PM
Reply to: Message 831 by Diomedes
05-17-2017 5:58 PM


Re: What Republicans say: then and now
Diomedes writes:

And to follow-up on Taq's point: can Marc reference the articles from the Obama administration where he fired the head of the FBI that was leading an investigation against him?

Could you imagine what would have happened if Obama fired the lead investigator for the Benghazi incident, went on TV and flat out said that he fired the investigator because he wanted the Benghazi investigation to wrap up, and then asked the FBI director to lay off the Hillary email investigation?

How many minutes would it take Republicans to vote for impeachment if those events took place?


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Message 834 of 4573 (809288)
05-17-2017 6:02 PM
Reply to: Message 832 by jar
05-17-2017 5:59 PM


Re: What Republicans say: then and now
jar writes:

You need to understand that what we see is simply a continuation of the Fundamentalist practice of Source over Content.

Exactly. Anything Republicans do is considered just fine by other Republicans, no matter what it is. If a Democrat does the same things they scream to the high heavens.


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Message 836 of 4573 (809292)
05-17-2017 6:09 PM
Reply to: Message 835 by LamarkNewAge
05-17-2017 6:02 PM


Re: What Republicans say: then and now
LamarckNewAge writes:

It is doubtful that Trump put any agents in danger unless you want to make a tangled web argument.

Russia absolutely detests the US influence in the region so they would be all to happy to have those agent/s dead and then blame it on the loose lips of Trump. Anything that diminishes US projected power is a win for the Russians.

Afterall, why did Russia erect anti-aircraft batteries in Syria? The rebels fighting in the Syrian civil war don't have any airplanes. The only airplanes fighting in that war are Russian and Syrian planes. The answer is really simple. Those missiles are there as a deterrent to US aircraft.


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Message 839 of 4573 (809297)
05-17-2017 6:15 PM
Reply to: Message 837 by LamarkNewAge
05-17-2017 6:11 PM


Re: Oh, I don't think Trump has anything to fear on the alleged election collusion.
LamarckNewAge writes:

He relishes that investigation.
He does need to fear all the post January 20 accusations that the CIA will level against him.

Especially if he works hard to get allied with Russia.

If so, Trump is doing the best impression of a guilty person that I have seen in a while.


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Message 841 of 4573 (809300)
05-17-2017 6:21 PM
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05-17-2017 6:16 PM


Re: What Republicans say: then and now
LamarckNewAge writes:

Russia and Israel are essentially on the same side when it comes to Sunni Muslims.

Russia would probably love to be Israel's favorite ally and have the US kicked to the curb.

These nations aren't enemies.

Russia and the US are, and Russia would love for the US to lose face.


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Message 852 of 4573 (809454)
05-18-2017 12:38 PM
Reply to: Message 850 by LamarkNewAge
05-18-2017 11:55 AM


Re: Tanypteryx laughed about the CIA hiding documents.
LamarckNewAge writes:

But there are very easy quotes to find about the "spooks" holding back documents from Nixon. From government officials in the administration.

Intelligence agencies have always withheld knowledge of sources and methods from the President unless they were vital for decision making processes. That same information is also compartmentalized in the agencies themselves. There's nothing wrong with that.

With Trump, we have something much more pernicious. We have a person who release damaging classified information for the simple purpose of stroking his own ego. That is scary.


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Message 894 of 4573 (812087)
06-14-2017 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 893 by NoNukes
06-14-2017 4:29 PM


Re: Trump's Birthday
NoNukes writes:

Happy Trump Day!!
Our president is 71 years old today.

The mental picture of cabinet secretaries trying to outdo each other with their Trump B-Day gifts both entertains and scares the shit out of me. Either way I get to laugh hysterically.


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Message 901 of 4573 (813460)
06-27-2017 6:08 PM
Reply to: Message 900 by 1.61803
06-27-2017 3:37 PM


1.61803 writes:

I believe ol' Newty boy is seeking some presidential scraps from the presidential table. He has been making his rounds on the pundit circuit with utter amnesia.

Or at least some scraps from the Fox News table. I, for one, wouldn't want to be getting on a ship when the rats are running the other way. Even top notch defense attorneys are turning the Trump down, but that might have more to do with Trump's penchant for not paying lawyer bills.


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