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Message 412 of 4573 (799914)
02-17-2017 6:02 PM


about those leaks ...
Of all the places to find a nugget Vanity Fair seldom made it to my search list but today one short paragraph did catch my eye. I guees you can't get more alternative media than Vanity Fair:
quote:
Don't assume a united front at the Mar-a-Lago country club in Palm Beach with the boss now the president and various benefits accruing to them as a result.
"Saying that the noisy group was really getting on his nerves, Mar-a-Lago country club member Walter Forsyth reportedly complained to the management Thursday about the obnoxious U.S. cabinet meeting seated at the next table. 'I just wanted a nice, quiet dinner, but this rowdy table of high-ranking government officials keeps rudely shouting about classified policy initiatives,' said Forsyth, adding that more than a dozen raucous aides and advisors had pulled up chairs to a table that was clearly only meant to seat six."
That pretty much sums up this Administration it seems.

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Message 413 of 4573 (799915)
02-17-2017 6:12 PM


Trump named in over fifty lawsuits so far
So far Donald Trump has been named in over 50 Federal case lawsuits in 17 States between being sworn in on January 20th and February 1st.
For Obama the number was 3 while Bill Clinton and G.W. Bush were named in 4.
That is a HUGE number.

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Message 416 of 4573 (799936)
02-17-2017 9:44 PM
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02-17-2017 9:29 PM


Re: Trump named in over fifty lawsuits so far
I said that was from Vanity Fair but simply Googling "Trump named in over fifty lawsuits so far" will bring up many, many, many, many, many, many references to the story. It is NOT under reported.
NBC
NewsMax
NYDailyNews
India Today
NPR

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Message 417 of 4573 (799943)
02-18-2017 7:53 AM


Stephen Miller interview
quote:
MILLER: Well, I think that it's been an important reminder to all Americans that we have a judiciary that has taken far too much power and become, in many cases, a supreme branch of government. One unelected judge in Seattle cannot remake laws for the entire country. I mean this is just crazy, John, the idea that you have a judge in Seattle say that a foreign national living in Libya has an effective right to enter the United States is -- is -- is beyond anything we've ever seen before.
The end result of this, though, is that our opponents, the media and the whole world will soon see as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned.
From Steven Miller's Face The Nation interview last Sunday.
Now if that don't scare folk nothing will.

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jar
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Message 423 of 4573 (800023)
02-19-2017 12:21 PM
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02-19-2017 11:54 AM


Re: Reaction to the Trump Press Conference
There is no need to trash Trump; he is doing a great job at just that. All that is necessary is to honestly report what he does and says and what his henchmen do and say.

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Message 434 of 4573 (800063)
02-19-2017 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 433 by NoNukes
02-19-2017 5:05 PM


I keep hearing claims of folk hating Trump but ...
that's just silly. Sure, I don't doubt there are people out there that hate Trump but personally my reaction is far from hate, it's far more incredulity. My reaction is constantly "Can you believe he actually said something that stupid?" or "Can you believe he actually did something that stupid?" or "Is it really possible that he is really as clueless of legality and morality as he seems?" or 'Isn't there anyone around him that can point out that he is wearing no clothes?"
Is he really simply surrounding himself with nothing but gutless sycophants?

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Message 437 of 4573 (800070)
02-19-2017 6:50 PM
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02-19-2017 5:40 PM


Re: I keep hearing claims of folk hating Trump but ...
marc writes:
I'm waiting for him to say that the founders intended for the constitution to apply to all people of the world.
Which of course is not something anyone other than you have said. Oh, and of course the Founding Fathers who said that "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness." Note, it does not say US citizens.
All Men are created equal. Illegal Aliens are created equal. They too deserve Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. And the US Constitution then expands on those basics and says that if they are within the borders of the US they are also entitled to the protection afforded under Articles IV-X of the US Constitution.

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Message 442 of 4573 (800089)
02-19-2017 9:07 PM
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02-19-2017 8:42 PM


Re: Reaction to the Trump Press Conference
You may have noticed that every one of your examples was also found and reported by ... the main stream media. And in fact the news that the stories were fake was widely reported in each case.
Trump though continues to produce fake news with every public speaking instance. The man seems incapable of either telling the truth or (as happened in the examples you mentioned) acknowledging that what he says is fake news.

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Message 448 of 4573 (800116)
02-20-2017 6:46 AM
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02-20-2017 2:43 AM


Re: And then there was Sweden
The problem is not so much with the mistaken claim but rather with his response and explanation...I heard a story on Fox News....They let in all those immigrants and now crime is way up.
I do not doubt that he heard a Fox News Story but it seems that once again what he heard was FAKE NEWS from Faux News.
But get serious. Do we want a President who get his state of the world briefings from Faux News?

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Message 453 of 4573 (800157)
02-20-2017 11:24 AM
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02-20-2017 9:51 AM


Re: British Parliament Considering Barring Trump
Lizzie could well be the Dope Slap il Donald needs though and she is certainly in a position to be as undiplomatic as she wants.

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Message 455 of 4573 (800192)
02-20-2017 5:01 PM
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02-20-2017 4:50 PM


Re: Another General
I wonder if Trump has read his book? Or even the Cliff Notes version of it.

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Message 457 of 4573 (800197)
02-20-2017 6:46 PM
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02-20-2017 5:17 PM


Re: Another General
I was thinking about an earlier work, Dereliction of Duty: Lyndon Johnson, Robert McNamara, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Lies That Led to Vietnam where he castigates the Military leaders for not standing up to the President and Secretary of Defense when plans were a failure.

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Message 458 of 4573 (800206)
02-20-2017 9:00 PM


It's still amazing that ...
we have a President that actually said I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things.

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Message 462 of 4573 (800229)
02-21-2017 8:58 AM
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02-21-2017 8:22 AM


Re: Another General
marc writes:
There's that word again, apparently "some observers" are news media wolves who are looking for a reason to attack Trump for it. Maybe they should stick to actually reporting news, and only cover any of their unforeseen "surprises" when they actually occur?
Actually, once again you are simply wrong. It is a surprise to all of us who have read Dereliction of Duty: Lyndon Johnson, Robert McNamara, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Lies That Led to Vietnam or watched the many news stories about the book that were so broadly covered over the last two decades.
This is not a subject that was under reported.
This appointment may be the first indication that il Donald realizes he does NOT have a very good brain and needs to talk to others than himself or his Fellow Travelers.

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Message 468 of 4573 (800305)
02-21-2017 7:34 PM
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02-21-2017 7:09 PM


Re: Another General
Actually I simply mentioned a book that the person wrote. No forum violation there.
marc writes:
If you'll give a very basic summary of your book reference, I'll express my thanks by giving a basic summary of a book I've read concerning judicial activism, when I get back to the ~the-whole-world-has-U.S.-Constitutional-rights thread.
There is no such thread as "~the-whole-world-has-U.S.-Constitutional-rights". Sorry. Start one and that should get settled quickly.
marc writes:
It's not a first indication for those who know the FIRST THING about Trump and his lifetime of successes, and that is that he has largely gotten things done not by doing them himself, but by choosing the right person/people for a job, and holding them accountable for getting it done.
You mean all the bankruptcies and folks forced to sue him? Are those the lifetime of successes?

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