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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Hey I like that video of Trump. "Lashing out?" Doesn't have that flavor to me. He's doing what we want him to do, point out when the media are over the line.
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ringo Member (Idle past 438 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
Why would "we" want him to do that? Why wouldn't "we" want him to do what the President is supposed to do - e.g. stand up for our allies and get tough with our enemies? He's doing what we want him to do, point out when the media are over the line. Edited by ringo, : Fixed quote misattributed to Phat.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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But they've stopped now haven't they? Many Americans haven't noticed, because it's not on the news. Standard marc9000 tactic. He did not hear it, so it must not have happened. But rather than check first, just post crap as if it were the truth. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith No it is based on math I studied in sixth grade, just plain old addition, substraction and multiplication. -- ICANT
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Trump Administration, in Reversal, Will Resume Risk Payments to Health Insurers
Remember how Trump promised to kill "Obamacare"? Well, it turns out that it's a lot harder than it seemed. In response to a lawsuit a few weeks ago, the Trump administration suspended "risk adjustment payments", payments that are given to plans that enroll high risk people and funded from plans that mainly enroll healthier people. The purpose of these payments is to encourage health insurers to include higher risk people onto their plans. As it turns out, Obamacare, like Social Security and Medicare, is wildly popular -- it seems that people actually like to not die from treatable illnesses. So popular, that Republicans in Congress are worried about repercussion in the upcoming elections if they allow too many people to become uninsured.
Republicans in Congress, afraid of being blamed in the midterm elections this year for even higher premiums, had urged the Trump administration to resume the payments to insurers. And so yesterday the Trump administration announced that they will resume the risk adjustment payments.What do you despise? By this are you truly known. -- Frank Herbert
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Remember how Trump promised to kill "Obamacare"? Well, it turns out that it's a lot harder than it seemed. Killed by replacing it with cheaper, better coverage? Yes, I do remember.
quote: Translation. If Democrats don't show up and show out at the polls this November, those payments are history. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door! We got a thousand points of light for the homeless man. We've got a kinder, gentler, machine gun hand. Neil Young, Rockin' in the Free World. Worrying about the "browning of America" is not racism. -- Faith I hate you all, you hate me -- Faith No it is based on math I studied in sixth grade, just plain old addition, substraction and multiplication. -- ICANT
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Chiroptera Inactive Member |
Translation. If Democrats don't show up and show out at the polls this November, those payments are history. Oh, I'm under no illusions that they have come to their senses. If the Republicans retain control of the House after the next elections, then they'll see this as their mandate to complete their destruction of the Republic. But I find it interesting seeing the individual representatives continue to make their electoral calculations: "Do I still have a chance of winning the election? Then maybe I shouldn't piss off the voters too much. But maybe I'm going to lose anyway; this may be our last chance to break things."What do you despise? By this are you truly known. -- Frank Herbert
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Percy Member Posts: 22492 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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You're not supposed to be posting to this thread. Please stop. Your antagonistic and evidence-free participation style were why you were originally asked to cease participating here. Actions have consequences, and you've lost the right to participate in threads of consequence.
You're again demonstrating your inability to engage in constructive dialogue over in your A Book about the Anti-Trump Conspiracy thread, where the totality of your most recent post was "You have NO idea," and the one previous said, "Hey the Liberal Nazis win, the Lefty Fascists win." I wish you'd stop this kind of thing over there, but you certainly won't be permitted an opportunity to do it here. Post here again and I will permanently suspend you. --Percy Edited by Percy, : Clarify.
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Percy Member Posts: 22492 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Trump cited national security as his reason for instituting tariffs on steel and aluminum against Europe. Today he announced a tariff deal with Europe that would eventually eliminate all tariffs, including those on steel and aluminum. Since nothing has changed regarding the supposed connection of steel and aluminum imports to national security, obviously it was a ruse.
Trump lies again. The stated goal of Trump's agreement with the EU is to eliminate tariffs, non-tariff barriers, and subsidies on industrial goods, but this is impossible. Expect more developments. Strangely, there was no mention of Trump's national security justification in the articles in the New York Times and Washington Post, and I also read the first few articles returned from a Google News search. This seems strange, but those who have already challenged the tariffs in court will notice - these tariffs should fall long before the US and the EU reach any agreement. But this deceit will give challenges additional weight against any attempts by Trump to invoke national security as justification for any future executive action. --Percy
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marc9000 Member Posts: 1522 From: Ky U.S. Joined: Member Rating: 1.3 |
Of course you don't have time for discussing Trump. That's why you posted all the long messages in this thread. You know you love it.
Take all the time you need. No one's in a hurry. Probably this weekend.
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Percy Member Posts: 22492 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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marc9000 writes: Of course you don't have time for discussing Trump. That's why you posted all the long messages in this thread.
You know you love it. You've mistaken the emphasis, which was your obvious lie about not having time for discussing Trump, as proven by your long messages. Why not just play it straight. Your premise is that Trump is the victim of untruthful and unfair leftist criticism, now just find some facts to support your premise. That doesn't mean rambling on at length about irrelevancies.
Take all the time you need. No one's in a hurry. Probably this weekend. Oh, be still my heart. --Percy
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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The Trump Presidency not simply to make government impossible but rather a direct assault on the concept of a reality based society. His goal is to create a society where decisions are based solely on desire and fantasy and all connections to reality are not just ignored but rejected.
That should have been obvious from the day after his inauguration when he began his really stupid claims about the size of the crowds. That should have been obvious when he made his claim he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue in broad daylight and not lose one vote. That should have been obvious from the first mention of "alternate facts". The truly scary part is that he is succeeding. His public assertions have consistently been in direct conflict with reality and they are all willingly accepted by his base. His inauguration was the most watched in history in the eyes of his base. He could shoot someone on 5th Avenue in broad daylight and not lose one vote. AbE: We need to remember that for most of history societies were based on fantasy as opposed to reality to a great extent. Governments in particular were based on fantasy. There's a famine? We displeased the Gods and are being punished. Sacrifice two chickens and a goat and hold a pachanga. The King rules by Divine Right. A comet is a sign in the heavens. There are witches. She has the Evil Eye. Garlic wards off vampires. Trolls live under bridges. Bleeding removes bad humors. Reality based societies are a recent invention and the antithesis of the fantasy based society. Edited by jar, : hit wrong key, see AbE:
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Percy Member Posts: 22492 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Public opinion is one thing, but if this ever gets into the courts it'll be quite another. Even if he's not impeached he's opened himself up for tons of lawsuits after his presidency is over, and he could easily be bankrupt a short while after the lawsuits begin to conclude. Trump brazenly believes he can indefinitely hold at bay all the forces arrayed against his destructive actions and policies, and maybe he's right, but if he's wrong then he's going to have a very unhappy post-presidency.
--Percy
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jar Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Only if he is wrong.
Remember Trump speaking about Xis power consolidation in China.
quote: He already has the Court that just might allow that.
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Chiroptera Inactive Member
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From this morning's New York Times;
To the surprise of absolutely no one, the Republicans' tax cut is leading to greater budget deficits.
The Trump administration had said that the tax cuts would pay for themselves by generating increased revenue from faster economic growth, but the White House has acknowledged in recent weeks that the deficit is growing faster than it had expected. If we hadn’t changed our tax system, said Kimberly A. Clausing, an economics professor at Reed College in Portland, Ore., who studies business taxation, you would be expecting rising revenues. This caught my eye:
This tax law is working, in the sense that now shareholders have access to their cash, Ms. Clausing said, but whether that translates to investment is a much different question. Yeah, the tax cuts are working: the intent, as was obvious to absolutely everyone, is to make sure that rich people get richer. 'Course that wasn't how the Republicans tried to sell it to the American people.What do you despise? By this are you truly known. -- Frank Herbert |
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Percy Member Posts: 22492 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Back on June 14th I posted the message Michale Avenatti for President, saying this:
Percy in Message 2020 writes: If we want a Democratic candidate who can out-Trump Trump and can effectively speak truth to both lies and power, I think Avenatti's the guy. When he first burst on the scene it was as the self-promoting and attention-grabbing Stormy Daniels lawyer, but I've now heard him speak in interviews quite a bit, and I don't think that's who he is. This guy's got substance. I know he's not on anyone's list, but I've heard a lot of Democrats speak in opposition to Trump, and not one comes close to Avenatti. And Michael Avenatti heard me, because in yesterday's Washington Post was the headline Avenatti to attend event frequented by presidential hopefuls:
quote: Don't miss a chance to hear him speak. He speaks clearly, directly, succinctly, and most importantly, truthfully. --Percy
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