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Author Topic:   The Trump Presidency
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Message 2761 of 2766 (848468)
02-06-2019 1:56 AM
Reply to: Message 2759 by kjsimons
02-05-2019 5:17 PM

Re: guns in schools
when tested, 70% of weapons get through TSA checkpoints...

conceded. i actually tried to get a job with them one time and found them stupid.

but the courtrooms have been pretty quiet in the news - no berserker shoot-em-ups.

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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Message 2762 of 2766 (848480)
02-06-2019 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 2754 by Phat
02-05-2019 3:52 PM

Re: The Trump Effect and the State Of The Union
Phat writes:

The only reason I posted in the Trump Presidency thread is that we have such a polarization of political and ideological thought in this country.

And yet your PragerU tries to lump conservatives and liberals together. "We" have the same values but "they" (the Left) don't. He as much as says that "they" don't love their children the way "we" do. He might as well say that "they" don't feel pain the way "we" do or that "they" enjoy slavery. He's dehumanizing "The Left". That's step one in being able to do anything "we" want to "them".

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 2763 of 2766 (848483)
02-06-2019 3:12 PM

Foxconn in Wisconsin
Bloomberg reports on the mess, over a massively subsidised factory that looks like never coming close to the original promises. And of course the deal was Trumpeted to the skies....

At least parts of the deal are dependent on Foxconn living up to it. But that seems to be the only good thing about it.

At the time of Trump’s visit

The Wisconsin plant was only handling the last steps of assembly, and some TV displays were still labeled “Made in Mexico.” Pay at the factory started at about $14 an hour with no benefits, much less than the $23 average Foxconn promised.

Under the terms Walker negotiated, each job at the Mount Pleasant factory is projected to cost the state at least $219,000 in tax breaks and other incentives. The good or extra-bad news, depending on your perspective, is that there probably won’t be 13,000 of them.

(Walker being the Republican Governor of Wisconsin - since ousted)

Walker should have been more careful:

Foxconn has a history of overpromising and underdelivering on major deals. In Brazil in 2011 and India in 2015, it pledged to invest billions of dollars and create tens of thousands of jobs after Gou courted each country’s leaders, but each project fell far short. In 2013, Foxconn said it would invest $30 million and employ as many as 500 people at a Pennsylvania factory that also never fully materialized.

A report from the Wisconsin Legislative Fiscal Bureau, a nonpartisan government agency, estimated the state would be in the red on the deal until at least 2042, and even that projection didn’t account for the kinds of increased public-services costs associated with population growth. It also based income tax revenue projections on the implausible assumption that every employee would live in Wisconsin, whereas some would almost certainly commute from nearby Illinois

On Jan. 18, Foxconn announced that at the end of 2018 it had 178 full-time employees in Wisconsin, missing its maximum first-year hiring target by 82 percent and costing it that year’s tax credits.

Lots more in the article.

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Message 2764 of 2766 (848507)
02-08-2019 7:22 AM
Reply to: Message 2763 by PaulK
02-06-2019 3:12 PM

Re: Foxconn in Wisconsin
Goodness gracious me. It sounds so much like a platinum mine in my country where poor people were solemny promised jobs and gathered around a hill. Lots of them were shot by the police. Marikana.
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Message 2765 of 2766 (848554)
02-09-2019 9:29 AM

It's Time for Trexit
I enjoyed this NYT editorial, you might too: Republicans Got Us Into This Mess, and They Have to Get Us Out of It


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Message 2766 of 2766 (848998)
02-20-2019 2:37 PM

Nukes for Saudi Arabia ?
Trump officials tried to fast-track nuclear tech transfer to Saudi Arabia

Members of Trump’s Transition Team tried to push a deal to sell nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia - even though it would almost certainly be illegal (Saudi Arabia would have to sign an agreement not to use the technology to produce weapons-grade material - and they have refused to do so in the past and showed no sign of changing their minds)

Flynn was up to his neck in it - having signed on with the company behind the scheme before he was invited into the Transition Team.

It hasn’t happened - yet - but it looks as if the deal is still not dead.

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