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dwise1
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Message 3076 of 3217 (858293)
07-19-2019 10:58 AM
Reply to: Message 3074 by Percy
07-19-2019 7:18 AM


Re: Il Duce With Hair
Looks like a Photoshop job. For example, the lines about the mouth and eyes are the same as well as the nose.

However, I do remember seeing Trump in a rally speech settle back after saying something and nod to himself in self-satisfaction like "That was a good one", and noticing how much it looked like Mussolini doing the exact same thing (the Mussolini clip is a very common one).


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Message 3077 of 3217 (858294)
07-19-2019 11:05 AM
Reply to: Message 3067 by a servant of Christ
07-19-2019 12:15 AM


and with a fundamentalist like pence in the wings, who i can see skating into the oval office himself, god may have found the right man for the job

Since, of course, God's Plan is to place the Beast and the Anti-Christ into political power in order to bring about the end of the world.

The "job" you are talking about is the institution and wide spread of human suffering and the destruction of the world. So then, yes, Trump and Pence (AKA "Mike Dense" as he's known in Indiana) are the perfect tools for that job.


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Message 3078 of 3217 (858349)
07-19-2019 4:59 PM
Reply to: Message 3075 by JonF
07-19-2019 9:19 AM


look it up

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The ruling shatters the claim that the tapes, which feature Planned Parenthood associates discussing the processes by which organs from the remains of aborted children can be harvested and donated (for a fee), were selectively edited. It also affirms that Planned Parenthood associates did indeed circumvent legal and ethical guidelines in pursuit of harvesting human organs, all of this in direct contradiction to what the so-called women’s health organization and its eager defenders in the press claimed after the tapes were released in 2015.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ent-deceptively-edited


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Message 3079 of 3217 (858350)
07-19-2019 5:03 PM
Reply to: Message 3077 by dwise1
07-19-2019 11:05 AM


hey remember when it was "crazy" to call obama an anti-christ? guess it's not crazy when your side does it, eh?

i think it's hilarious that y'all think trump is demonic, when the bush's, obama, clintons, make him look like a pacifist.


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Message 3080 of 3217 (858367)
07-19-2019 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 3079 by a servant of Christ
07-19-2019 5:03 PM


hey remember when it was "*****" to call obama an anti-christ?

Why was he called that? Oh, yeah. For having once worn a tan suit. Or for having sat back and put his feet up on the desk. Yeah, horrendous stuff like that.

guess it's not ***** when your side does it, eh?

By my side you must mean loyal Americans, especially ones who have sworn to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I have solemnly sworn that oath at least seven times during my military career.

i think it's hilarious that y'all think trump is demonic, ...

No, not demonic. We're just pointing out what your own religious framework would correctly identify Trump to be. Assuming that you also believe in demons (my fundamentalist training with the Jesus Freaks, 1970, revealed how extremely obsessed they were with demons), you may wish to have yourself checked for possession -- at the very least it sounds like Morton's Demon.

Rather, Trump is dirty Alpha-Foxtrot. Besides the obvious criminal issues (main reason why he is so frantic about keeping his finances secret), there are the many counter-intelligence issues he raises which all make him appear to be a Russian asset; eg, secretly meeting with Russian officials in the Oval Office (Trump was the only American present) where he handed classified material over to the Russians (it was the Russians who outed him on this one), meeting with Putin secretly in that no other Americans were present and he never briefed his own people on what was discussed (what we have been able to learn had to come from intelligence gathered from the Russian government), phone conversation(s) with Putin conducted in the same manner, lifting of all sanctions against Russia immediately upon entering office (which was blocked by overwhelming vote in Congress which then was completely controlled by the GOP, well over a hundred instances of collusion between his campaign and Russians connected with the Russian government as listed in the Mueller Report, his business plans with Russia which continued well into the campaign and which included presenting Putin with a bribe, his lap-doggish devotion to Putin and eagerness to please him which strongly suggest compromise or more, in foreign policy, trade, and internal policy he is working to undermine democracy and our international alliances all in accordance with Putin's plans. There is strong suspicion that Trump's extreme measures to keep his finances secret are in part to hide income received from Russia, something that Don Jr. had boasted about to reporters a year or two before the campaign. Donald Trump has been identified as a major threat to national security and it should be noted that intelligence services do not share intelligence with his office, knowing that he would probably just give it to the Russians.

Counter-intelligence describes the motives for recruiting an espionage asset (eg, double agents, agents, useful idjits) with the acronym MICE:

quote:
There have been various attempts to explain why people become spies. One common theory is summed up by the acronym MICE: Money, Ideology, Compromise or Extortion (depending on source), and Ego or Extortion (depending on source). Another is the RASCLS framework: Reciprocation, Authority, Scarcity, Commitment and Consistency, Liking, and Social Proof.[1] Others have stressed the roles of disaffection, grudges, and personal links.

Trump is obviously motivated by money in everything that he does, including siphoning government money, political donations, and foreign money into his own pockets. He is far too shallow to have any ideology. Ego definitely plays a role (blow in his ear and he'll follow you anywhere). His secretive dealings with the Russian government obviously has him compromised, though he does not appear to be coerced but rather appears to be eager to get Putin's approval.

His criminality is obvious and will come fully to light with the many on-going investigations. And before you parrot the cry of "witch-hunt!", some of these investigations have yielded confessions and indictments. Trump is dirty Alpha-Foxtrot in these matters as well.

In addition, Trump and his corrupt administration are working to destroy the federal government from within, to leave our federal election system wide open for further attacks from hostile nations such as Russia, to destroy the rule of law, and to liquidate as much of our country's resources into cash for himself, his cronies, and his rich friends.

His MO has turned out to be to manufacture crises in order to distract attention away from his misdeeds and the more panicked he becomes the more extreme the crisis that he creates, such as provoking hostilities with Iran. How far would he be willing to go? Don't forget that very shortly after entering office he asked why he couldn't use nuclear weapons (why having them if we don't use them?).

That's quite a bit more diabolical than wearing a tan suit, wouldn't you agree?


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Message 3081 of 3217 (858388)
07-19-2019 11:05 PM
Reply to: Message 3064 by Percy
07-18-2019 7:24 AM


Trmp in 2020!

Just curious, if Trump is a wannabe communist tyrant, wouldn't you say he's the first leader in the history of the world to seek that position by advocating less government regulation, more free marketing, and maintaining an armed citizenry?


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Message 3082 of 3217 (858390)
07-20-2019 12:06 AM
Reply to: Message 3081 by marc9000
07-19-2019 11:05 PM


Marc, That symbol is not to represent Trump's goal but his master's goal.

Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.


Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Message 3083 of 3217 (858394)
07-20-2019 7:04 AM
Reply to: Message 3081 by marc9000
07-19-2019 11:05 PM


Russia is not communist. The symbol was not meant to represent the USSR, which does not exist anymore. Thus, could not be supporting donnie. It is to represent Putin and Russia.
These things really are not that hard to figure out.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 3084 of 3217 (858421)
07-20-2019 10:17 AM


Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

Edited by JonF, : No reason given.


  
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Message 3085 of 3217 (858425)
07-20-2019 10:48 AM
Reply to: Message 3083 by Theodoric
07-20-2019 7:04 AM


Well, to be fair, I didn't get it either.

It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman

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Message 3086 of 3217 (858435)
07-20-2019 11:55 AM
Reply to: Message 3081 by marc9000
07-19-2019 11:05 PM


marc9000 writes:

more free marketing


Tariffs?

Edited by ringo, : Missspeled tarrifs.


All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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Message 3087 of 3217 (858545)
07-21-2019 5:37 PM
Reply to: Message 3083 by Theodoric
07-20-2019 7:04 AM


Russia is not communist. The symbol was not meant to represent the USSR, which does not exist anymore. Thus, could not be supporting donnie. It is to represent Putin and Russia.
These things really are not that hard to figure out.

I'm not seeing your claim in any definitions of that emblem. Do you have any sources that say the emblem's meaning is changeable over time?

quote:
an emblem consisting of a crossed hammer and sickle used especially as a symbol of Soviet Communism

https://www.merriam-webster.com/...ary/hammer%20and%20sickle

and;

quote:
Three out of the five currently ruling Communist parties use a hammer and sickle as the party symbol: the Communist Party of China, the Communist Party of Vietnam and the Lao People's Revolutionary Party. All of these use the yellow-on-red colour scheme. In Laos and Vietnam, the hammer and sickle party flags can often be seen flying side-by-side with their respective national flags.

I bolded the word "currently" for you there. Also from this Wiikipedia link;

quote:
At the time of its creation, the hammer stood for the proletariat and the sickle for the peasantry—combined they stood for the worker-peasant alliance for socialism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammer_and_sickle

SOCIALISM?? That ideology that all the current Democrat candidates are embracing? When Trump stood at the podium and stated that the U.S. would never become a socialist country, did you notice that Nancy Pelosi, sitting behind him, did not stand up and cheer?

I'm trying to understand how the left can become so unhinged that they would try to associate Trump with socialism/ communism, when that is exactly what the DEMOCRATS are embracing.

Since I got 3 dances and 0 answers to my question, let me ask it one more time, since no one here seems to take exception to the claim of Message 3064, wouldn't you say he's the first leader in the history of the world to seek a socialist/communist position by advocating less government regulation, more free marketing, and maintaining an armed citizenry?

(if you believe tariffs are only a socialist/communist activity, then I can't help you)


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Message 3088 of 3217 (858546)
07-21-2019 5:50 PM
Reply to: Message 3087 by marc9000
07-21-2019 5:37 PM


Is there Social Security?

Does Medicare exist?

Are there public highways?

Are there Municipal Fire and Police Departments?

Are there street lights?

Is there an Interstate Highway system?

Do US Highways exist?

Are there Public Water Systems?

Sorry Charlie but all of those are Socialist Programs.


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Message 3089 of 3217 (858547)
07-21-2019 5:52 PM
Reply to: Message 3087 by marc9000
07-21-2019 5:37 PM


No he's looking for an oligarchy.

Which of the many varieties of socialism do the Democratic candidates embrace?

ABE did you notice the alleged actions you listed are the antithesis of socialism or communism? Except for the armed citizenry.

Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

Edited by JonF, : No reason given.


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Message 3090 of 3217 (858609)
07-22-2019 11:42 AM


C-SPAN caller poisoned by Trump says congresswomen in The Squad own ’27 million black African slaves’

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“The four — whatever they’re called, the group — you know, those people, they ascribe to an ideology that has 27 million black African slaves owned by them in their country,” she stated. “And that’s currently, not 150 years ago. That’s not then, but that’s now.”

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