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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8553 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Turns out the corps of US Federal Brownshirts doing their Nazi thing in Portland are not trained professionals but unqualified amateurs.
Federal Officers Deployed in Portland Didn’t Have Proper Training, D.H.S. Memo Said - The New York Times This administration just gets worse and worse. Where is the outpouring of protest against this display of official government fascism and abuse of power? Where are the armed patriots sworn to protect the nation from the abuses of government gone horribly bad? Where is the Second Amendment crowd? Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Factio Republicana delenda est.
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Paul
AZ writes: Where are the armed patriots sworn to protect the nation from the abuses of government gone horribly bad? Sitting on the sidelines allowing the Government employees to do their job. Since when is it an abuse of power to protect Federal Buildings from being destroyed by a mob determined to destroy the Federal buildings in Portland? God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: So much for defending the Constitution.
quote: Don’t be silly. The justification for their presence is graffiti on Federal buildings - a little short of destruction, don’t you think? And they are snatching peaceful protestors off the streets. Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8553 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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It's not the justification that is the problem, Reverend, it's the extrajudicial methods. Federal agents operating in combat uniforms, no insignia, no ID, operating in a police function without local authority, arresting people without warrant, taking violent action against peaceful protesters for exercising a constitutional right..
These are the very types of government actions we fought a war over.Factio Republicana delenda est.
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vimesey Member (Idle past 100 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined:
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In that regard Paul, this is an interesting (and fairly short) read: How Did the Nazis Gain Power in Germany? - The New York Times
I keep banging this drum, I know, but I like to drive home to as many of our readers as I can, that if we don’t learn from our historical mistakes, we are condemned to repeat them. And Trump’s supporters don’t realise just how extensively they’re repeating the mistakes which led to the rise of Nazism. As mistakes go, there’s none bigger.Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1267 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
yet he defunded planned parenthood which is the biggest nazi organization in the world
no brakes
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kjsimons Member Posts: 822 From: Orlando,FL Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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Put up or shutup, defend this comment or retract it! Planned Parenthood provides pregnancy and prenatal care as well and in many many places it is the only provider of these services.
Edited by kjsimons, : typo
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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And Trump’s supporters don’t realise just how extensively they’re repeating the mistakes which led to the rise of Nazism.
Worse, still -- maybe some of them do realize it.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Paul,
AZPaul writes: It's not the justification that is the problem, Reverend, it's the extrajudicial methods. Federal agents operating in combat uniforms, no insignia, no ID, operating in a police function without local authority, arresting people without warrant, taking violent action against peaceful protesters for exercising a constitutional right.. Extrajudicial methods. Do you mean arresting people and charging then with a felony when they deface a federal building. That is a felony not a right. When you got people attacking you with all kinds of projectiles including molotovcocktail's you would not want to have your Church clothes on. no insignia, no ID, Why would any of those things be required as long as they are on the Federal Property protecting it from the people determined to destroy the buildings. operating in a police function without local authority, Why is any local authority required when it is mandated by the constitution that the Federal employees protect the buildings. It can get bad enough that the marines can be deployed to protect the Federal Buildings just as they do in foreign countries. arresting people without warrant, Since when is a warrant required to arrest someone in the process of committing a felony. Defacing a Federal Building is a Felony. taking violent action against peaceful protesters for exercising a constitutional right..I haven't seen anyone arrested for exercising their right of peaceful protesting. For a protest to be peaceful there can be no impediment to foot traffic or auto traffic. No missiles of any kind can be thrown at buildings or those protecting the Federal Buildings. Sledge hammers would not be allowed to beat on the buildings with. And a permit is also required. In my lifetime I have been involved in several peaceful protests. What you see in Portland and other Cities are not peaceful protests.
AZPaul writes: These are the very types of government actions we fought a war over. What war was that? If you are referring to the war with England I think you have your facts mixed up. I was taught we fought that war because of taxation without representation. With England trying to impose their will on the colonies. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Paulk,
Paulk writes: So much for defending the Constitution. You really would not want a militia protecting the buildings in Portland would you?
Paulk writes: Don’t be silly. The justification for their presence is graffiti on Federal buildings Defacing a Federal Building is a felony. injuring a federal official is a felony and several have permanent eye damage due to attacks by the rioters. One officer was hit in the head with a sledge hammer that was being used to try and break down the door. So you paint it any way you want too. To me it is total anarchy and should be brought to an end with every rioter being locked up for a long time. No one has any right to destroy someone else's property in Portland alone over 23 million dollars worth of damage has been done to private property and local government owned taxpayers property. The stated aim is to destroy the Federal Courthouse.
Paulk writes: And they are snatching peaceful protestors off the streets. The only one's who have been arrested is those who have committed felonies. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
no insignia, no ID, Why would any of those things be required as long as they are on the Federal Property protecting it from the people determined to destroy the buildings.
they're not exclusively on federal property, they're driving around in rental cars snatching people off the streets for "proactive arrests", arresting people who haven't committed a crime.
Why is any local authority required when it is mandated by the constitution that the Federal employees protect the buildings.
show me where the department of homeland security is in the constitution. Show me where "proactive arrests" are allowed in the constitution Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: At least you agree that the militia are lying hypocrites who actually want a tyranny. I don’t want them involved but if they lived up to their rhetoric they should certainly be objecting to the Federal government’s actions.
quote: Then why is the justification for the deployment a series of graffiti attacks? And the eye injuries I hear about are those inflicted on innocent people by police firing baton rounds at their heads.
quote: Even if that were true - and I very much doubt it, how is it an excuse for picking up innocent people off of the street? In violation of the Constitution?
quote: That is certainly untrue. Edited by AdminPhat, : fixed broken quote
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Phat Member Posts: 18338 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
It doesnt look much better now in Denver.
Denver to create campsites, consider tax hike to help people experiencing homelessness. The thing is, if the city breaks up these campsites it will just cause more potential shoplifers to move down Colfax nearer to my grocery store. We have a $2,000.00 loss every day now as is. Times are getting tougher and potentially will affect more classes of people."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** We must realize that the Reformation world view leads in the direction of government freedom. But the humanist world view with inevitable certainty leads in the direction of statism. This is so because humanists, having no god, must put something at the center, and it is inevitably society, government, or the state.- Francis A. Schaeffer The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.- Criss Jami, Killosophy
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1267 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
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kjsimons Member Posts: 822 From: Orlando,FL Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
The founder did indeed have some awful thoughts and ideas, but that has nothing to do with the modern Planned Parenthood organization, so try again.
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